SONDAGGIO: i canadesi sostengono i futuri acquisti di Gripen rispetto agli F-35 con un margine di 30 punti – Spencer Fernando

I mean, alright.

I get that the USA aren’t a very trustworthy partner right now. But choosing between F-35 and the Gripen is like choosing between a brand new Ferrari and your mom’s Renault Twingo.

Im not even sure those Gripens have enough range to cover Canada completely

We should just be buying from allies. Gripen will look great in RCAF livery.

Canada just needs to make literally any choice at all on fighter jets as long as they actually make it. This has been going on since 2014 they keep cancelling the procurement and then doing new trials that discover everything they already knew.

They could have picked the F-35, Gripen, Rafale, or Eurofighter Typhoon and regardless of which one they picked their air force would be in a substantially better position than it is today.

Meanwhile, Denmark is ordering new F-35 planes from the very country that threatens to take Greenland by force.

Grippen are great. They can start and Land on shitty roads, easy and fast to equip with new ammo and relatively cheap. And my favorite part: Everyone can develop upgrades

On the other hand you have the f35:
They are expensive as shit, expensive to maintain Nobody exept Us and the US favorite country have Access to the rootsystem… you cannot use the planes without the military services that are strictly only located in the US and its favorite country,
else you cannot really rely on them if you want to do anything that are against the builders interest because them planes have a kill switch and you have to buy the Us overpriced weapons system

In summery you just have a really expansive piece of junk

How does this impact NORAD collaboration?

Canadian sentiment is for the Gripen vs the exhaustive study that found the f-35 won by a landslide. Politics be politicking.

Most Canadians are idiots who don’t know jack shit about military procurement and our air force capabilities.

Your average Canadian doesn’t know a thing about how the RCAF works or why it overwhelmingly prefers the F-35. Ask the average Canadian on the street about where they thing the CAF’s biggest overseas deployment is and few of them would know that it’s in Estonia. Military procurement should be left to the experts, not the whimsical demands of the mass acting on emotion.

I’ll just re-post what I posted before about the viability of the Gripen for Canada, that it hinges on a bunch of copiums like:

1) Ukraine, a war-torn and impoverished nation, somehow finding dozens of billions to buy 150 Gripens.

2) That Canada can afford a mixed fleet despite being barely able to afford its 4,000 troops stationed in Estonia or even housing them in Canada.

3) That Saab can actually deliver 10,000 jobs for local assembly of a fighter made up of mostly foreign parts.

4) That the Gripen can be retooled to use an engine that has never existed and was designed and conceptualized in the 90s for a entirely different plane.

5) That Canada can build out an assembly line quickly enough and somehow pump out enough planes to replace its aging CF-18s in the next 10 years. This is despite the fact that Brazil, which also has local assembly of Gripens, [won’t complete its order of 15 Gripen E/F until 2032](https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/brazil-used-gripen-sweden-fighter-gap/), a full 18 years afters it initial order in 2014.

6) On top of that, the Gripen will somehow be competitive with current 5th gen fighters and even emerging 6th fighters 10 years from now.

7) And lastly, that the US would allow critical parts like the GE F414 or the Collins avionics to be exported to Canada for Gripen assembly or that it won’t block the Gripen from NORAD certification.

I dont think this is a subject that the lawmakers are too worried about what the public thinks. I can still see them buying the F-35 because we have more production capacity and most or all parts will be a border away and not an ocean away. Don’t matter how much you all love or hate Trump he’s only here until 2028 despite what the Qanon level conspiracy theorists are claiming