La Gran Bretagna ha bisogno di un nuovo patto di difesa con l’Europa nel timore che Trump non la difenderà dagli attacchi. I sondaggi mostrano che gli elettori britannici temono che gli Stati Uniti potrebbero non venire in aiuto della Gran Bretagna in caso di attacco di Putin

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-defence-pact-europe-trump-nato-russia-b2891548.html

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  1. ByGollie on

    Slight headline editorialisation – inserting country and attaching part of the byline to emphasise which national voting bloc for international readers.

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    > #Britain should join forces with Europe in a new defence pact because it can no longer trust Donald Trump’s America to defend it in the event of a military attack by Russia, voters believe.
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    > That is the stark outcome of a survey by The Independent to gauge the public’s reaction to dramatic changes in US foreign policy under Mr Trump and increasing hostility to Europe – including Britain – from Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

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    > A total of 55 per cent of British voters want a new UK/Europe defence alliance – without America – to guard against the threat from Putin, according to the JL Partners poll, while only 11 per cent oppose this plan.
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    > Such a move would mark a historic shift in defence policy with major diplomatic implications.
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    > Currently, the defence of Britain and Europe against the threat of attack depends on Nato, which was set up by European nations and the US in 1949 in the aftermath of the Second World War.

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    > Under Nato’s cornerstone Article 5, an attack on any member is treated as an attack on all. In practice, that pledge is underpinned by the huge military firepower of its biggest member, the US.
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    > However, America’s own commitment to Nato has come under question since the re-election of President Trump last year and his stance on the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
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    > Mr Trump has called European countries “weak”, repeatedly criticised them for not spending enough money on defence, and even threatened to ignore his Nato vow to defend them for not doing so if they are attacked.
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    > In addition, Mr Trump has been accused by some of siding with Russia – not Europe – in its war with Ukraine.
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    > He has promised to offer Ukraine Nato-style “Article 5-like” protection from further Russian attacks in the event of a ceasefire, but his refusal to go further has led some to question its value.
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    > In fact, the only time Nato’s Article 5 has been triggered was in defence of the US after the 9/11 attacks in 2001.

    > In recent weeks a series of major European figures have raised the alarm on this issue.
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    > Nato secretary general Mark Rutte warned its members to start ramping up preparations “for the scale of war our grandparents or great-grandparents endured”.
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    > His comments were echoed by the new head of MI6, Blaise Metreweli, who highlighted the growing menace from Russia, which she said was “testing us in the grey zone with tactics that are just below the threshold of war”, while defence minister Al Carns said the “shadow of war is knocking on Europe’s door”.
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    > Their comments reflect fears that Putin could follow his invasion of Ukraine with a new attack on Europe, such as the Baltic states.
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    > Russia has violated European airspace with fighter jets and drones, as well as carrying out cyber attacks and acts of sabotage.
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    > European countries already collaborate on defence issues via a number of organisations, such as the UK-led Joint Expeditionary Force, to guard against the threat from Russia in Norway and northern Europe.
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    > Furthermore, European nations are currently increasing their defence spending.
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    > But it will be many years before they are capable of defending themselves without relying on the US.
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    > James Johnson, of JL Partners, said: “The radical change in views on foreign policy from Donald Trump’s White House appears to have taken its toll on British voters.
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    > “Judging from our survey, voters have lost faith in the belief that if Britain or any of its European neighbours faces a real military threat, America will automatically come to its rescue.
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    > “They think Europe should take control of its own military protection to guarantee its safety.”
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  2. Gentle_Snail on

    The UK and Europe already have a defence pact through NATO?

  3. LittleSchwein1234 on

    Tell that to fucking Macron. I’m tired of EU members abusing the veto to sabotage the EU in favour of national interests (or in the case of Orbán, interests of an adversary)

  4. ProductGuy48 on

    Pedofile Trump is the best advertisement for the European Union 🇪🇺

  5. irreplacable_fker on

    Remember when Britain had a huge empire? Now they can’t even defend themselves against Russia.
    Lets all laugh 😁

  6. Zenitallin on

    The rooks are supposed to be located at each end of the line.

  7. Overall-Examination5 on

    As Ben Franklin said: “we must all hang together or we will all hang separately”.

    Do not trust Trump. France may get a president from the far right. Turkey seem to stick to Russia. Will AfD gain power in Germany? What’s left?

  8. mumwifealcoholic on

    Turnips promises aren’t worth the paper they are written on.

  9. Darkone539 on

    What a waste of paper that would be. We’re in nato. We definitely don’t need one with the eu, they can’t even all agree to defend each other. They are in nato or neutral states.

    Don’t really care if we signed one, but this article calls it a dramatic shift. It would change nothing.

  10. We have the Joint Expeditionary Force which is specific to Northern Europe.

    We also need to beef up our own naval fleet but great progress is made on that already.

    But really we’re probably THE best defended and geographically safest country in Europe, we’re the last country that would need others to come to its defence. A population of 70 million on a sizeable island is an extremely formidable adversary.

  11. fusilaeh700 on

    nobody believes in nato anymore, nuclear protection by usa is a hoax

    its just stick and carrot for usa foreign policy

    lets start a european defence alliance

  12. BaritBrit on

    I wonder how many fish we’re going to have to cough up for the privilege this time. 

  13. A combined military Europe would be a formidable foe to anyone but right now you have multiple EU countries with their own agenda. Macron treats the EU like his own federal Europe. Germany, UK and Italy are having Right wing spikes which would rather support Russia than Europe.

    So much potential but as usual politics is the blocker as always

  14. Rouge_69 on

    Why would Putin attack the UK?

    They have their own nukes, are part of NATO, and the UN Security Council.

  15. Novel_Bathroom_2362 on

    Who exactly is going to attack the UK? Russia?

    Lmao. They can’t even take the land next door. They’re not attacking us.

    The UK (and Europe) should focus on the real biggest issue we face.

    Civilisational decline do to large scale demographic change.

    Instead, the EU just signalled it wants even more immigration from outside Europe.

    Madness.

  16. Longjumping_Ad_1180 on

    Keep in mind it’s the UK we are talking about here.
    If we look at history their alliances were all about them looking for assistance when they were under threat but not reciprocating it when their allies were under threat.

    Look no further the WWII and the Anglo-Frank-Polish allience. Often referee to as the Western Betrayal.

    Im sure this will get down voted to shit, but facts are facts.

  17. Chilliger on

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the US sanctioned European states if they want to use American weapons against a Russian invasion.

    Edit: they can already remote shut down any F35 anyway.

  18. CellNo5383 on

    Realistically, what could Russia do against Britain, even without allies? They don’t have a fleet to speak of. Their air force is capable of bombing Ukraine, but Britain is much further away and has better air defenses. Their conventional forces are useless without a landing operation, which would be suicide without a navy and air superiority. They could use nuclear weapons and trade London for st Petersburg and Moscow, but that’s not in their interest either.

    All it would come down to is harassing shipping and the occasional missile attack.

  19. Garderanz1 on

    So we hitting uno reverse on brexit but they still voting for fucking Farage

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