Zack Polanski offre agli elettori soluzioni fantasiose, afferma il capo della Fabian Society

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/31/zack-polanski-offering-voters-unicorns-and-fantasy-solutions-says-head-of-fabian-society

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  1. RaymondBumcheese on

    Yeah, what we really need is for someone to nihilistically accept things are shit, that there is nothing we can do about it and carefully manage our decline into oblivion. 

    Wait….

  2. supergodmasterforce on

    For info, the Fabian Society is a Labour affiliated “thinktank” and not an independent organisation.

  3. JustGap8613 on

    The man’s a populist fool who talks like a sixth former. His politics is not grounded in economic reality. Same for Owen Jones, Ash Sarkar etc, they’re well meaning and educated in their field, but they are poor on the cold hard figures and economic policy. The MMT nerds will round on me in a few minutes

  4. LyingFacts on

    No, absolutely. I love the food banks, hateful racists and fascists everyone poorer and just general shitness that is the UK. Love it.

    Let’s keep going.

    Boris, Truss, Sunak all were amazing.

    Lets get Farage in and ruin the NHS and make life even more miserable for people.

    Brexit and trickle down economics have been amazing!

    Yeh!!!!!!!!

  5. SideburnsOfDoom on

    Meanwhile the Labour party is offering no solutions.

    Reform is offering racist fantasy solutions.

    Conservatives are MIA.

    So.

  6. VamosFicar on

    Coming from the Fabians, that isalmost an endorsement. The Fabians work alongside the WEF and their ambitions and manipulations are the reason the UK and Europe are in the state they are.

  7. Tyr_Kovacs on

    Reject total fantasy solutions like taxing the wealthy.

    Embrace the definitely 100% real and true Trickle-down economics.

    Don’t look into either in any way.

  8. AccomplishedAct5364 on

    I’m a green voter and I haven’t heard much aside from counter-Farage populism.

  9. Frosty_Customer_9243 on

    It is interesting that all these people, this think tank, conservatives, reform, etc. keep saying that what the others are proposing won’t work. But none are proposing solutions that will work.

    Just look at the Labour government which is working hard to keep the current from getting worse (they might be succeeding, they might not be) or the previous Conservative government. Neither has made life better for the majority of people.

    Can someone please come up with solutions that actually work, and we as the public focus on the measurable results instead of how we feel about the policies?

  10. JackStrawWitchita on

    1) Billionaires fund think tank.

    2) Think tank publishes recommendations not to tax billionaires so much.

    3) Voters: *pikachu surprise face*

  11. Tyr_Kovacs on

    We have two options:

    1) Let the entire world collapse so that a few dozen pedophiles can make triple-digit billions instead of double-digit billions.

    2) Do something else.

    The uber wealthy do not pay taxes like we do.
    We get paid 100% in income, that gets taxed. We spend that income, and have to constantly make more income (paying taxes) to keep going.

    They largely get paid in stocks.
    That doesn’t get taxed until they sell it (unrealised gains). 
    They then use those stocks as leverage to get loans.
    They repay those loans with more loans against their ever rising untaxed portfolio, or by shuffling stock around (not selling them).
    They almost never sell their assets, constantly accumulating more wealth, but never paying any tax on it.

    There are trillions in unrealised dragon hoards that will never be spent or taxed, and all that has been siphoned from everyone else.

    The over financialisation of the economy has created a closed loop.

    Think of a town.
    The fireman would pay the butcher, who would pay the farmer, who would pay the baker, who would pay the miller, who would pay the furniture maker, and all of them would pay taxes to pay the fireman. It mostly circulated in a robust market.

    The system we have now is that everyone pays big international companies.
    Some of that money circulates, but a significant and ever increasing portion of it goes into a private equity financial scheme where it stops forever.
    More and more money enters the economy, it eventually filters up to the uber-wealthy, and stops.

    All the while, quality of life for everyone except the most wealthy decreases.
    Costs go up to ensure exponential profit growth and more wealth extraction.

    This isn’t Lefty Lunacy.
    We have had the data for decades. It’s a mathematical fact that the current system is unsustainable.

  12. Obi-Scone on

    *yawn* – Tell you what then, if the other parties start offering solutions that help 95% of the population and makes the lives of the super rich visibly worse, then I’ll pay attention to them. And stop telling me ‘Reform will win’. No they won’t, stop trying to make Fetch happen.

  13. _Monsterguy_ on

    Have any parties offered anything other than fantasies in recent years?

    “Well do blah blah blah”

  14. LordLucian on

    Is it just me or does this seem to read like a nottheonion article?

  15. Rewindcasette on

    He’s no Caroline Lucas is he? No grasp on economics, doesn’t know the top tax rate and has no clue about how much we spending on interest on the debt yearly.

    On a personal note: he seems perfectly affable and easy to get on with.

    Source: the rest is politics:

    [https://youtu.be/_DC2MHOiUf0?si=Ji3AnZzaf82bOI0h&t=2689](https://youtu.be/_DC2MHOiUf0?si=Ji3AnZzaf82bOI0h&t=2689)

    All well and good to discuss taxing the rich but he says absolutely nothing about wage stagnation or the lack productivity or growth. I believe he is anti-growth.

    [https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/1907440188814499882?s=20](https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/1907440188814499882?s=20)

    [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1dqxvxn09wt](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1dqxvxn09wt)

    Either way the Greens know what they’re against. But they don’t have any framework to deliver what they want. They want “£160bn rise in day-to-day spending” they can’t say how beyond MMT.

    [https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2025/11/what-would-zack-polanski-do](https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2025/11/what-would-zack-polanski-do)

  16. ElCaminoInTheWest on

    They’re depressingly right. Polanski is a populist fantasist whose entire platform is ‘wouldn’t it be nice if things were magically different?’ 

    You can agree that things should be different and better without subscribing to an empty set of fabulous promises with zero recourse or means of delivery.

  17. Snoot_Booper_101 on

    “Left wing populists tell porkies” shouldn’t really be news, but here we are. They’re barely any better than the right wing ones.

  18. TheEndIsFingNigh on

    Ah yes, Fabian. Another neoliberal thinktank created by the wealthy to ensure no one disrupts wealth being siphoned into a few hands.

  19. JuanFran21 on

    And they are 100% right.

    The economic reforms he is proposing are absolutely mental and it seems he barely understands them himself. I’m all for taxing wealth but if he attempted to implement MMT, the UK will genuinely never recover.

  20. Eclectika on

    I can see where they’re coming from, but I would’ve thought they’d be over the moon at it as if Fabians have left labour and are now green members they’re excluded from most democratic processes in the Fabians, as most votes etc have the qualification that you be a member of labour.

    It was the reason why, after more than 20 years of being a Fabian I left. That and the women’s branch (which they put me in without my consent) was very much leaning to wife and mother propaganda. My life was (and still is) too short for that shite.

  21. MirkwoodWanderer1 on

    I mean they’re not wrong.

    Some of the things Zacks said like having complete open borders with no limit of immigration isn’t practical. Especially with the welfare budget he’d want spent on the significant increase in people coming to the uk and getting benefits.

    I just want a sensible leader willing to implement policies for the benefit of British citizens as a priority.

  22. I’m not sure what national crisis was solved by labour introducing wanking licenses and banning trans people from using the toilet, but what do I know? Just pleb who should know their place, right?

  23. aleopardstail on

    so.. basically the same as every other politician and political party then?

  24. ACompletelyLostCause on

    The article offers no substantive rebuttle of the Greens policies, in fact no rebuttle at all except “the Greens promise you unicorns, don’t believe them, trust me bro”. It spends more words on Farage & Reform than the Greens.

    This is at best a puff peice and at worst a somewhat narcissistic advert by the Fabian society to the donor class saying ‘don’t worry, we’re not really that left wing and not radical at all, your wealth is safe’.

    The only thing they actually complain about is a Green Party proposed very minor wealth tax on the very richest in society, that’s equivalent to ‘think of the poor billionaires and how oppressed they are, they need our support’.

    If you’re going to criticise the Green party, then at least provide some policy examples (other than a minor tax increase on billionaires) and offer counters to them. There is a lot to critise about the Green party’s policies, but the only policy the Fabian Society worries about is not taxing the ultra wealthy.

  25. Acceptable-Ask35 on

    He’s in for it now: they’ve unleashed the Labour Party Nepo babies on him

  26. ShondaVanda on

    The more the establishment twists itself in the wind to try and discredit Polanski, the more I want to vote Green.

  27. Due_Confusion_86 on

    I see the Guardian’s decided the status quo needs to be defended again. There will probably be a lot of these articles next year, I imagine. Don’t worry, once he’s out of the way they’ll go back to writing about how things could be better if only someone would do something.

  28. Ghalldachd on

    True but Polanskism is just 21st century Fabianism so I don’t really want to hear it from them unless they’ll repudiate their past century of wacky proposals at the same time.

  29. MWBrooks1995 on

    So’s fucking Farage!

    “UwU we’ll deport everyone!” is also magical thinking! It’s not going to fix everything. Where was this energy when they started polling higher??

  30. wscottwatson on

    The greens seem to be filling the space left by labour as it has drifted right since 1979. Good luck to them!

  31. ShanePhillips on

    Seeing as the Fabian society is for nepo babies and trust fund kids, not an overly surprising take.

  32. spiderham42 on

    No different to what we end up finding outbafyer other politicians promises and lies.

  33. Sir_Henry_Deadman on

    A labour party founding society is saying don’t vote green … Shock

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