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  1. PoppedCork on

    Jennifer Horgan argues that it’s getting harder for women to teach certain teenage boys, particularly due to misogynistic attitudes.

    Female teachers often experience verbal and sexual harassment from male students, with research showing significant concern over online misogyny in schools.

    The UK government’s new £20m initiative to train teachers to spot misogyny is seen as misdirected. Horgan believes female teachers already experience and recognize it daily.

    The “hidden curriculum” — cultural and social issues kids bring from home — plays a bigger role than the formal curriculum in reinforcing misogyny.

    Governments focus too much on schools to fix cultural issues like misogyny, while overlooking the role of parents, coaches, and society at large.

    A new strategy announced by the UK government, including celebrity TV ads, has been criticized for falling short and being politically motivated.

    What have you seen in your experience that reflects or challenges these points?

  2. AluminiumCrackers on

    It’s funny how the racists (sorry, I mean anti-immigration activists) complain about Muslim cultures bringing in sexist attitudes but the biggest spreader of these attittudes is people like Andrew Tate, who they fawn over.

  3. pixelburp on

    My niece in the UK has experienced this, and only at 11;  boy in her class has made her and other girls’ lives misery, hurling the most horrendous misogyny at them. I’ve had it repeated back to me and it’s violent and horrible and precisely what you’d expect from the “manosphere”. Of course the boy has received zero punishment and is now operating under a No Fucks Given attitude, the parents apparently unperturbed by their boys behavior.

  4. thereforewhat on

    I think part of this has to be finding a positive model of masculinity to share with boys. 

    I’m not convinced the secular world actually offers this and often our commentary about boys and men is rather negative in society and in the media. 

    That definitely needs to change. It’s not surprising that one model that avoids the manosphere is that more Gen Z men are showing up at church. 

    I think this genuinely is the answer as Jesus Christ gives us a positive model of masculinity and I hope as young men and teenagers come to our pews they’ll see that and find real purpose too. 

  5. NotAnotherOne2024 on

    Media outlets need to stop pushing opinion pieces. Honestly they’re just a platform for a certain cohort to promote their name/brand.

    Article gives a very limited intro into the subject, provides absolutely no examples or Irish perspectives and then goes on to outline and discuss in detail another jurisdictions dealings with the subject.

  6. jamespirit on

    Its not about misogynistic young boys fuck off. That disdainful look is leveled on any teacher of any sex, race, creed, age or nationality. 

    Young women and girls have gotten more disrespectful towards males. And yes with nasty, disdainful or contemptuous looks. And yes this is happening with male students too. 

    Kids are more disrespectful in general. Don’t paint it out that our society is getting more misogynistic. Kids will find a way to pick apart whatever a person is insecure about or whatever marks them as different. Or just what they know is the thing you aren’t supposed to say. Kids will be disrespectful to anyone. 

  7. WringedSponge on

    We also need to do more to avoid alienating boys in schools and sending them into the arms of the Tates and Petersons.

    There have been wonderful efforts to overcome historical prejudices and stereotypes against women. I worry that we sometimes view them through the eyes of adults who need the bias correction. A 10 year old boy who hears more positive messages for girls is likely to develop some issues because they didn’t live through the past decades. If I’m 10 and I’m told that “The future is female” tshirts are positive, but “The future is male” is hateful, I can imagine being easily wooed by the far right.

  8. LimerickLegend on

    Wow middle aged women are hating men before they even become men now. Kind of impressive.

  9. CommunicationLower51 on

    How come male teachers never seem to have these issues with young boys. It always seems to be mentally weak women who treat boys like their peers who can’t handle a bunch of teenagers

  10. anubis_xxv on

    Think of all the shitty classmates we all had as kids in school in the 90’s and 00’s who made teachers lives hell.

    They all have kids now in school. If they’re not in prison or dead like some of my finest classmates.

    Any teachers I know in rough schools, they have kids who don’t want to be there, and all they can do is try to talk to the parents who openly don’t care if their kids are in or not. And I’m nowhere near Dublin.

  11. Tony_Meatballs_00 on

    It’s funny all the “women are the problem” commenters are big gamers

  12. chonkykais16 on

    Honestly I see this in my nephews and younger cousins. I hate to sound like a broken record but it really is the unfettered access to internet. At their age I was watching a lot of TV and used the internet to play flash games. They’re on their phones and iPads nearly every waking minute and the content that they’re being fed is really, really vile. I don’t think the older adults understand how insidious the sort of ideology they’re being fed through streaming channels/ YouTube are.

  13. johnfuckingtravolta on

    A huge amount of blame has to go towards modern parenting styles. Most parents dont monitor their kids online activity at all. Kids are overprotected offline and underprotected online and theres a reluctance to discipline. I dont mean smack the kids.

  14. boiler_1985 on

    We need to be like Australia and ban social media for under 16s… and for some smooth brained adults while we’re at it. 

  15. hotlinebalally on

    Too much reference to British things for my taste. Editor should’ve went back to Horgz to remind her of her audience.

  16. GaeilgeoirInAnam on

    “If you don’t father your children someone else will”. Embrace them, show them the way rather them pushing them towards it, let them fail, model the characteristics you want to see.

  17. Any_Comparison_3716 on

    Perhaps gender equality in teaching?

    50/50 all the way through. It’s not normal that my first interaction with a male teacher was in 3rd year of Secondary.

    I would say many of these lads have zero male role models in their lives.

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