>”The United States stands by the defence of the alliance and also stands by its alliance with Europe,” Wadephul told a joint press conference in Paris with his counterparts from India, France and Poland.
>”I have not the slightest doubt that we stand together in the closest possible unity and that this alliance will remain exactly what it has always been: the most successful defence alliance in the world,” he added.
I don’t think a German minister has the power to speak for the US. Also, why is India there? Am I missing something or has India joined NATO?
AirportCreep on
*I have not the slightest doubt that we stand together in the closest possible unity and that this alliance will remain exactly what it has always been: the most successful defence alliance in the world*
I don’t personally NATO is about to collapse, but I am blind to the fact that it’s going through a challenging period. ‘Closest possible unity’? Yeah I think we were much more unified during Bidens presidency.
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Distinct_Cup_1598 on
This.
This is the Proof: Germany is incapable to understand the Situation and its leaders are dense mofos….
To now of all times say something Like this is beyond being naive or delusional. It’s foolish and raises question of their cognitive state….
heapOfWallStreet on
So, the problems the EU is facing will remain as they are.
Zestyclose_Piglet251 on
I think even the foreign minister realizes that we should plan for the medium and long term without the US. In public, however, everyone is still putting on a brave face. Behind the scenes, work is quietly being done to achieve European independence, without much fanfare. This will take years. This phase will be really tough for everyone, as we are constantly being tested and the US will continue to relish our dependence in view of the ongoing war in Europe.
Honestly, with allies like that, who needs enemies? I think the foreign minister knows this too. He just can’t say it openly because we still need the US. Or at least we are convinced that we still need them.
We’ll see. But the Americans shouldn’t be surprised if Europeans now treat them with much greater mistrust. The damage has already been done. Even Trump’s poisoned commitment to NATO won’t save anything now.
Jaimalaugenou on
Thoses countries are fucking blind
bklor on
This is why I have come to the conclusion that I wish to see an end to NATO. As long as the organization exist Europe will bet on appeasement policy.
tree_boom on
I don’t think it’s going to collapse in the next 5 years, but nor do I think it will survive in its current form for the next 50. The reality is even if the next US president embarks on a relationship mending tour of reconciliation to a large extent the damage is done – the exposition of the US as an unreliable leader of our defence means that even if the pace slows, ultimately now Europe will take more and more of the lead on its own defence and the protection of its interests. Once it does that a large part of the value in allowing American bases on European territory will be gone and the coats of those bases will begin to outweigh the benefit, and they’ll be invited to leave.
I don’t think NATO will collapse, but I do think that US leadership of it will now come to an end over time.
Individual_Yard_5636 on
No wonder populism is taking over.
Urzuck on
He must live in another reality then.
Fit_Fisherman_9840 on
He using drugs or simply lying
Flynn58 on
Anyone who is still calling the United States an “ally” is either blind to the basic reality around them, or a willing collaborator seeking to betray their nation as Quisling did.
blackcoffee17 on
Why does Europe need NATO? It should be strong enough to protect it’s borders alone.
Mammoth_Meet_9313 on
“European politicians are weak” -Donald Trump.
Can’t say he’s wrong.
InvertReverse on
Classic Germany when shit hits the fan. They were also so afraid of helping Ukraine the first year, because if Putin’s ‘red lines’…
OLDandBOLDfr on
I believe so too; those Epstein Files sure are heavy.
Ataiun on
Germany is always too late to understand what is really happening.
Aggressive-Kitchen18 on
Of course it will remain as is. The notion that any country would leave NATO while EU clamors for endless war is ludicrous. Trump knows this. He will annex Greenland and grant us the privilege to buy more armaments and gas from them, which we are desperate for. That will be the end of it.
In the EU we like to think we are so smart and we keep getting fucked in the ass by these dummies. Are we the dummies?
ex0e on
For everyone cheering on the dissolution of NATO and the forthcoming mutlipolar, great power world: the US gets the Americas; China gets Asia, the Middle East, and Africa; and Europe gets the moral high ground.
Secure-Albatross-894 on
Germany is too busy making deals with genociders that have interests on us letting the USA get away with a blatant attack on our sovereignty.
PuzzleheadedClock216 on
When Trump wants to keep Greenland, a NATO member, to guarantee his security, it is because the enemy he wants to defend himself against or attack is the EU and NATO.
I hope he is saying this because he thinks it is diplomatically smart and not because he actually believes this.
Tilladarling on
I’m not
Maddog_Jets on
Trump just said they are raising the US defence budget… or his new renamed Department of War budget by 50% to 1.5T
Let me guess… then he says again after he said he doubts NATO will support them today that they are leaving NATO and justifies to Congress based on other countries not spending enough…. Especially not buying enough American weapons etc.
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>”The United States stands by the defence of the alliance and also stands by its alliance with Europe,” Wadephul told a joint press conference in Paris with his counterparts from India, France and Poland.
>”I have not the slightest doubt that we stand together in the closest possible unity and that this alliance will remain exactly what it has always been: the most successful defence alliance in the world,” he added.
I don’t think a German minister has the power to speak for the US. Also, why is India there? Am I missing something or has India joined NATO?
*I have not the slightest doubt that we stand together in the closest possible unity and that this alliance will remain exactly what it has always been: the most successful defence alliance in the world*
I don’t personally NATO is about to collapse, but I am blind to the fact that it’s going through a challenging period. ‘Closest possible unity’? Yeah I think we were much more unified during Bidens presidency.
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This.
This is the Proof: Germany is incapable to understand the Situation and its leaders are dense mofos….
To now of all times say something Like this is beyond being naive or delusional. It’s foolish and raises question of their cognitive state….
So, the problems the EU is facing will remain as they are.
I think even the foreign minister realizes that we should plan for the medium and long term without the US. In public, however, everyone is still putting on a brave face. Behind the scenes, work is quietly being done to achieve European independence, without much fanfare. This will take years. This phase will be really tough for everyone, as we are constantly being tested and the US will continue to relish our dependence in view of the ongoing war in Europe.
Honestly, with allies like that, who needs enemies? I think the foreign minister knows this too. He just can’t say it openly because we still need the US. Or at least we are convinced that we still need them.
We’ll see. But the Americans shouldn’t be surprised if Europeans now treat them with much greater mistrust. The damage has already been done. Even Trump’s poisoned commitment to NATO won’t save anything now.
Thoses countries are fucking blind
This is why I have come to the conclusion that I wish to see an end to NATO. As long as the organization exist Europe will bet on appeasement policy.
I don’t think it’s going to collapse in the next 5 years, but nor do I think it will survive in its current form for the next 50. The reality is even if the next US president embarks on a relationship mending tour of reconciliation to a large extent the damage is done – the exposition of the US as an unreliable leader of our defence means that even if the pace slows, ultimately now Europe will take more and more of the lead on its own defence and the protection of its interests. Once it does that a large part of the value in allowing American bases on European territory will be gone and the coats of those bases will begin to outweigh the benefit, and they’ll be invited to leave.
I don’t think NATO will collapse, but I do think that US leadership of it will now come to an end over time.
No wonder populism is taking over.
He must live in another reality then.
He using drugs or simply lying
Anyone who is still calling the United States an “ally” is either blind to the basic reality around them, or a willing collaborator seeking to betray their nation as Quisling did.
Why does Europe need NATO? It should be strong enough to protect it’s borders alone.
“European politicians are weak” -Donald Trump.
Can’t say he’s wrong.
Classic Germany when shit hits the fan. They were also so afraid of helping Ukraine the first year, because if Putin’s ‘red lines’…
I believe so too; those Epstein Files sure are heavy.
Germany is always too late to understand what is really happening.
Of course it will remain as is. The notion that any country would leave NATO while EU clamors for endless war is ludicrous. Trump knows this. He will annex Greenland and grant us the privilege to buy more armaments and gas from them, which we are desperate for. That will be the end of it.
In the EU we like to think we are so smart and we keep getting fucked in the ass by these dummies. Are we the dummies?
For everyone cheering on the dissolution of NATO and the forthcoming mutlipolar, great power world: the US gets the Americas; China gets Asia, the Middle East, and Africa; and Europe gets the moral high ground.
Germany is too busy making deals with genociders that have interests on us letting the USA get away with a blatant attack on our sovereignty.
When Trump wants to keep Greenland, a NATO member, to guarantee his security, it is because the enemy he wants to defend himself against or attack is the EU and NATO.
[VERY serious duderino](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/johan-wadephul-cdu-politiker-wird-opfer-von-russischem-fake-anruf-a-821aed70-85a8-4ece-b2fa-0f9012fbab88) known for his supreme judgement of the state of affairs
I hope he is saying this because he thinks it is diplomatically smart and not because he actually believes this.
I’m not
Trump just said they are raising the US defence budget… or his new renamed Department of War budget by 50% to 1.5T
Let me guess… then he says again after he said he doubts NATO will support them today that they are leaving NATO and justifies to Congress based on other countries not spending enough…. Especially not buying enough American weapons etc.
Delusional.