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  1. Purple_Hat_51 on

    The eu should create united armed forces and a large united nuclear umbrella.

  2. slashinvestor on

    Short answer yes!

    Long answer really yes!

    Explanation: that the US happened to support us was the result of a policy that has since run its course. If anything we Europeans did become lazy and fall asleep at the wheel.

  3. The EU should take action, instead of endlessly discussing this topic.

  4. InCloud44 on

    Would be very good, but we could also make mandatory army again for 2-3 months. Every single person 18-40 in every country should learn to use a gun, to give help, maybe even to use a drone…

  5. JourneyThiefer on

    How would this work for the neutral countries in the EU? Austria and Ireland

  6. I think the EU needs a unified defensive army and a joint nuclear umbrella 

  7. CHINESEBOTTROLL on

    What will they call the 28th regime when another member joins? They really should have called it the 0th regime

  8. Three_legged_fish12 on

    Yep, probably going to need it sooner or later. Pricks to the east and the west.

  9. ProductGuy48 on

    Absolutely yes. 60% of existing armed forces should be federalised with the rest remaining in place under the nation states for internal security purposes.

  10. Tetracropolis on

    No. You can’t have a military with 27 leaders, and there’s no way in the world you’re getting all 27 countries to commit to a military where they don’t have a veto. It would be useless, paralysed, it couldn’t take any action until it was too late.

    If there’s to be a unified european military it would have to start off with a much smaller number of countries, ideally nominating a single leader with authority to act. There’s no reason it has to be under the auspices of the EU, and it could only work if it weren’t.

    It’s still an enormous undertaking asking countries with enough economic clout to matter to sign off on that, though.

  11. Shorts answer: yes

    Long answer: Yes, but it need a pretty specifik structure. As an joint army needs cohesion in its commandsteucture and flexibility in it’s smallest parts.

    We already have some pretty autonomous armies in the Eu with very different specialities. So the hard part would be to make a high command structure where the individual countries will corporate and not try and do infighting. Like it might be a momentary structure only used in emergencies.

    Imagine something like the Roman dictator status. The most capable military commander get temporarily power over the full military force to make the overall strategy and decisions. While the national commanders will be the ones to suppress when the emergency are over.

  12. Valahul77 on

    This is simply not possible in the current form of the EU. Unless it transforms itself into a confederation or that the so called “army” would more something like the UN peacekeepers.

  13. CertainMiddle2382 on

    Old Swiss confederation is maybe a good example on how to coordinate various armies.

    Each Canton kept training and arming its own troops. But at the orders of the federal command, all would gather under the same banner and command.

    The EU could create a central « Eurocommand » that under specific circumstances could take total control of all EU military forces for a specific amount of time (like 4 months).

  14. yohowdoyoudo on

    Europe must unite in every way possible asap cuz there are Trump funded Musk funded fascist funded Israel funded Russia funded factions working to destroy the EU.
    So yes a military but also in every way possible we need federal Europe asap

  15. Huh? Where is the “EU army” part coming from?

    > The 28th regime is a long-standing concept. It would be a separate initiative that creates a single set of rules for businesses in the EU. The objective is to simplify laws and mitigate the fact that there are varying national regulations that create barriers for companies. The Letta report states that this ‘would be a transformative step towards a more unified single market’. The 28th regime would replace national law where the EU has exclusive competence, and it would supplement national legislation in other cases. It would also address relevant laws such as insolvency, labour, and tax rules. The Commission has indicated that the legislative proposal for this is scheduled for the first quarter of 2026.

    > The initiative for a 28th regime is thus announced as a major and separate initiative, to support young
    and small innovative companies. The communication for the competitiveness compass specifies that
    the aim is to create ‘a single, harmonised set of EU-wide rules’ from which innovative companies
    could benefit, instead of ‘facing 27 distinct legal regimes’.

    Is a national army now considered a “young and small innovative company”?

    The EU army is absolutely problematic. IDK why people want this. Right now the states are flexible and need to protect each other anyway. If there are problems in Egypt, the UK or Germany can help out. If you need a 2/3 majority to act on the international scene, the EU would become extremely useless. What about stuff like Taiwan or Ukraine? Do people think the population would not riot if the EU parliament or the commission would send troops into Ukraine against a national majority? Italians would die in a war (even a defensive one) while the people don’t want to send their children over there?

    You do this once and the EU is done. Meanwhile smaller groups like the E3 or E5 can just act without those EU chains. Others can/could join those groups and help out. I don’t understand why we should change the current setup?

    But now some in the EU are talking about a new army that will exist with the national ones. That’s even more absurd. Why should we waste people and ressources for such a thing? We need everything we got to strengthen our current militaries.

  16. UpbeatGarden3746 on

    Don’t rush it—another decade of discussions should really do the trick.

  17. Kind of, a coalition of the willing that applies for funding is worth a try. A EU military operating with nationals of states giving up their sovereignty in defence isn’t going to happen, there’s no legal basis for it at the constitutional level. Now, alliances are possible of course, that’s NATO. Independenly of that, willing nations could integrate in a European only one with unified command, which might involve treaties or not, it could just happen should their governments want to.

    I mean, when there’s a will there’s a way.

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