Ministro: Oltre il 90% degli studenti di lingua russa che raggiungono il livello B1 in estone sono troppo ottimisti

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  1. GreenEyeOfADemon on

    Half of Estonia’s russian-speaking basic school graduates are still unable to achieve B1 level Estonian despite having studied the language for nine years. B1 is required for them to continue studying at vocational education centers.

    The issue was highlighted at the end of last year by Hendrik Agur, director of the Ida-Viru Vocational Education Center. Agur, who has run the center since August, publicly blamed school principals and owners for the problem.

  2. DragonfruitWrong8501 on

    90% sounds less like a goal, more like a fantasy patch note.

  3. Bicentennial_Douche on

    Don’t expect too much, they have only had 35 years to learn the language!

  4. JHMfield on

    The issue would literally fix itself if kindergartens were Estonian only. Every single teacher only speaking in Estonian and making sure the kids only use Estonian as well.

    I have several friends who were born to Russian parents who then sent the kids to Estonian kindergartens and then to Estonian schools.

    And without exception, every single one was fluent in Estonian by the time they entered school, even when their parents only ever spoke Russian at home.

    Kids need a high dose of Estonian immersion from childhood and they’ll master the language in no time.

  5. AdminEating_Dragon on

    The problem here seems to be the parents. They raise their kids in a Russophone bubble, and the kids speak Russian in their daily life, their social circle, their family friends, everywhere except for their Estonian class.

  6. kewthewer on

    I don’t have much sympathy for Russian people at all, being honest.

  7. Mister-Psychology on

    Give everyone who speaks Estonian fluently €100 a month. It’s not even much and won’t change your economy, but the pain of not getting it will cause all these Russian speaking teens to finally take the language lessons.

  8. SolivagantWalker on

    Well that’s a progress, iirc it was around A before.

  9. I did my Erasmus in Latvia and reached B1 Latvian (mostly for fun, the classes were in English) in 9-10 months as a native french speaker.

    Instead of crying they can either study or go live in a place where Russian is the official language. But somehow they don’t want that either, I wonder why.

  10. Mission-Shopping7170 on

    what about English or German or Gaelic? I can imagine most of those students would want to emigrate after school.

  11. fatbreadslut on

    failing to achieve B1 in 9 years is insane. it should take at most a year to reach that level of proficiency, or even less seeing how these kids live in estonia and have the opportunity to practice the language every day.

  12. Any-Original-6113 on

    As I understand it from reading the article, the minister questions whether the Estonian language proficiency in Russian-language schools will be higher than in purely Estonian schools.

    I can’t interpret that paragraph from the article any other way.

    “Looking at how they perform in mathematics and the fact that in Estonian-language schools there has never been a 100 percent (pass rate) because there are always children who fail, I consider a pass rate of more than 90 percent to be overly optimistic,” said Kallas.

    P.S. It seems none of the commenters actually read the article.

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