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    1. lolwut778 on

      At this point, I’m afraid it’s gonna be strongly worded letters and mildly annoyed statements. Trump and his cronies are threatening to invade a sovereign EU country, and Europe is so far trying to calm him down as opposed to telling him to go fuck off.

    2. Effective_Bath3217 on

      Registro histórico de abusos, crímenes y responsabilidades
      1. Exterminio de nativos americanos (siglos XVI–XIX)
      Masacres sistemáticas, desplazamientos forzados, pérdida de tierras y cultura.
      Caso simbólico: Ishi, último sobreviviente de la tribu Yahi, documentado por antropólogos.
      Lección: la responsabilidad histórica recae tanto en los Estados como en los ciudadanos que permitieron la expansión violenta.
      2. Guerra de España y Cuba (1898)
      Explosión del USS Maine en La Habana, 266 tripulantes muertos.
      Investigaciones modernas indican accidente interno en las bodegas, España no tuvo participación.
      EE. UU. manipuló el incidente como pretexto para la guerra y expandir su influencia territorial.
      Patrón: uso de tragedias para justificar agresión política y militar.
      3. Apropiación de Texas, California y Utah (1845–1848)
      Anexión de Texas y guerra contra México.
      Pérdida de aproximadamente la mitad del territorio mexicano: California, Utah, Nuevo México, Arizona, Nevada, partes de Colorado y Wyoming.
      Motivación: expansión territorial y control económico.
      Patrón: robo de recursos y tierras mediante fuerza militar.
      4. Guerra de Vietnam (1955–1975)
      Bombardeos masivos de población civil, uso de napalm y agente naranja.
      Masacre de My Lai (1968), alrededor de 500 civiles asesinados.
      Millones de muertos y desplazados; devastación ecológica y social.
      Patrón: destrucción indiscriminada y manipulación ideológica (anticomunismo).
      5. Golpe en Chile y asesinato de Salvador Allende (1973)
      Intervención de EE. UU. para desestabilizar al gobierno democrático.
      Golpe militar de Pinochet, muerte de Allende.
      Represión y desapariciones de opositores.
      Patrón: apoyo externo a golpes y dictaduras para intereses estratégicos.
      6. Dictadura en Argentina (1976–1983)
      Apoyo político y logístico de EE. UU. a la Junta Militar.
      Secuestros, torturas y desaparición de 30 000 personas.
      Participación en la Operación Cóndor regional.
      7. Invasión de Irak (2003)
      Justificada por supuestas armas de destrucción masiva inexistentes.
      Invasión y ocupación para control de recursos estratégicos, principalmente petróleo.
      Patrón: mentira como pretexto para agresión y saqueo.
      8. Uso de armas nucleares en Hiroshima y Nagasaki (1945)
      Muertes directas e indirectas de cientos de miles de civiles.
      Ninguna disculpa oficial ni reconocimiento legal.
      9. Gaza y ataques asimétricos (contemporáneo)
      Ataques unilaterales sobre población civil, escuelas y hospitales.
      No es una guerra en sentido técnico: solo un actor tiene fuerza militar organizada.
      No se dirige contra Hamas de manera equilibrada; se afecta principalmente al pueblo civil.
      Algunos políticos israelíes han insistido en políticas letales contra niños y civiles; existen pruebas documentadas en organismos internacionales.
      Patrón: ataques deliberados a civiles y manipulación de narrativa.
      10. Asesinato de Martin Luther King Jr. (1968)
      Líder pacífico de derechos civiles, crítico de la guerra de Vietnam.
      Asesinado por James Earl Ray; investigaciones sugieren posibles encubrimientos.
      Patrón: eliminación de líderes críticos al poder.
      11. Políticas contra pueblos aborígenes en Australia
      Niños separados de sus familias (“generaciones robadas”).
      2008: disculpa oficial del gobierno australiano.
      Lección: la responsabilidad moral y la reparación son posibles, aunque tardías.
      12. Responsabilidad de líderes contemporáneos
      Netanyahu: señalado por crímenes de guerra y contra la humanidad.
      Trump: decisiones políticas que pueden constituir responsabilidad indirecta en crímenes internacionales.
      Patrón: el poder político es inmune sin presión ciudadana y jurídica.
      Reflexión ética
      No se juzgan pueblos, sino responsables concretos.
      La masa crítica de ciudadanos decide la acción de una nación: apoyo, silencio o resistencia.
      Obedecer ciegamente no exime de responsabilidad (principio Núremberg).
      Objetores de conciencia y rechazo a la complicidad son herramientas de ética personal y social.
      La inacción permite atrocidades: “somos responsables de permitir que se cometan atrocidades en nuestro nombre”.
      Hasta cuándo
      Hasta cuándo la impunidad sigue siendo tolerada.
      Hasta cuándo los crímenes cometidos en nombre de naciones poderosas quedan sin justicia.
      Hasta cuándo las personas no ejercen responsabilidad ética y eligen complicidad o silencio.
      🔹 Conclusión final
      La historia muestra un patrón consistente de abuso de poder, manipulación de la verdad y criminalidad encubierta, desde la colonización hasta conflictos contemporáneos.
      Las naciones están formadas por individuos; la ética, la denuncia y la objeción de conciencia son el verdadero freno a la impunidad.
      La pregunta central que queda abierta es: ¿hasta cuándo permitiremos que los responsables actúen sin rendir cuentas y que las personas sean cómplices por inacción?

    3. Alberta_Hiker on

      I suspect very little will be done, at least militarily speaking.

      There will be zero active resistance to a US invasion other than a small number of greenlanders whom own small arms.

      Europe will watch the Americans take it over and protest, try to kick up a diplomatic fuss

      In the end I suspect they are just going to invite the Americans to establish a large militarily presence on the Island to satiate their security concerns

    4. Any_Researcher9513 on

      I wonder if the EU could implement an immediate tax on all EU citizens data that’s held and/or sold by US tech companies. Make them finacially responsible for any disinformation posted on US owned social media companies.

      Given the vast majority of wall streets stocks are tech related, the effect would surely be pretty swift and severe?

    6. AsamaMaru on

      I’m an American. We need help. This country is out of control.

    8. BanAnimeClowns on

      The Ukraine war has left Europe fully reliant on the US. That’s why our politicians did nothing when Nordstream was blown up and why they won’t do anything to stop them from taking Greenland.

    9. BassesBest on

      “We are permanently basing European NATO troops in Greenland to defend the Arctic against Chinese and Russian influence”

      America has no grounds for annexation, Europe can defend the territory from *anyone* who wants to take it over

    10. Harry_Iconic_Jr on

      this:

      >For Paris-based columnist Alexander Hurst, Europe’s best course of action is to force “a rupture” with the US, including telling the US to leave its European military bases. “Everything short of actual combat should be considered,” [Hurst wrote](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/14/europe-trump-democracy-violent-conquest-federalism), “because ‘annexing Greenland’ is a symptom of American fascism, and others will follow.”

    11. Aware-Chipmunk4344 on

      Send a few hundreds there with MANPADs and anti-tank missils, and see if Trump dares to order opening fire on them. If there are heavy casualties on both sides, an instant impeachment and world wide condemnation is guaranteed, plus a war crime investigation by ICC initiated.

    12. Kataoaka on

      Genuinely awful take on the events unfolding. I expected better from The Guardian. What Danes or Greenlandic people are fleeing?? And how far will we go? Van der Leyen made that clear today and as did the Danish minister of Defense in his speech culminating during the meeting between the US, Denmark and Greenland.

      And what is this about “ownership”, it’s spun in a way that makes Denmark appear afraid of losing it’s territorial ground like it’s a colonial overlord. Greenland belongs to the Greenlanders and they are free to vote for independence at any time. Our government has made that very clear so many times already you have to be tone deaf to disregard it.

    13. 22yossarian22 on

      The whole point is for Europe to finally grow a spine, so any and all lengths would probably be appreciated by America

    14. Used-Preparation-755 on

      US should no longer hold the position of global superpower. Currently shows signs of deep internal instability, political polarization, and social fragmentation, which undermine its reliability on the global stage. Decision-making processes are increasingly influenced by mass misinformation, emotional reactions, and a lack of long-term strategic coherence. This creates a real risk of collective irrationality driven by ignorance rather than informed judgment. As a result, US. has become an unpredictable actor, raising serious concerns about its capacity to lead responsibly in an increasingly complex world.

    15. Floplox on

      Very far, all the way, we have to. If EU won’t be unite around that, EU will have failed as an institution.

      I see a lot here having the opposite view, but looking at actions already taken. EU is showing tremendous unity and solidarity compared to what we might have expected.

      Denmark has already sent troops to Greenland and many countries have followed suit. France, Germany, Scandinavians, Netherlands etc.
      (Arguably not many, but it’s symbolic and a deterrent)
      I don’t think many EU countries would let it slide if US invaded and gunned down their own citizens.

      I think this is 100% a way to show the world that we are a united EU, and if US kills our country men in an invasion.
      It would mean war.
      It’s much easier for politicians to persuade their population to go into war when your own country men has been killed by a common enemy.

      I think European politicians knows that if US attacks and we don’t unite, and stand together, we are doomed.
      Together we are a powerhouse, specially with all the increased defense spending Trump has so actively pushed on the EU. We have already begun talks about a united EU army for real now.

      I don’t see any other choice for EU. It’s different with Ukraine, since they are not part of EU or NATO, we can’t really do much but support, without starting ww3 due to our defense clause.

      So yes we meme about, all EU does is sanction people here and there, and write strongly worded letters.
      But an invasion of EU territory, is the ultimate limit.
      It’s our existential premise as a continent.
      Alone we are very weak. Only together can EU prosper and have peace.
      With all the wars we fought against each other, I’m confident the politicians knows this after having enjoyed peace for 80 years.

    16. Phosquitos on

      I’m wondering why the EU countries that have the budget to do it and doesn’t have nuclear weapons, still didn’t start a nuclear program 4 f* years ago.

    18. Great_SEXpectations2 on

      The Russian Ukraine war has shown that Europe is not dependent upon America.
      Certainly moving forward in every hemisphere in the world every Allie now fully understands that USA is not to be trusted. This will have ramifications for many years and especially America. Why would anyone trust you and allow you to have bases, why would anyone cooperate with you

    19. smartallick on

      European countries and allies further afield can literally hold the US economy to ransom via the bond markets.

      No-one should be under any illusions, if the US goes too far then a Europe wide sell-off of US treasury bonds (which would quickly be followed by other nations outside Europe too) would immediately cause the US to default on it’s debts and immediately send it into a debt crisis that would utterly dwarf the 2008 financial crisis or even the great depression. This wouldn’t even require involvement of the EU as indivdual countries hold these bonds and don’t need permission from the EU to sell, so it is something that could be done at pace and couldn’t be blocked by Trump’s cronies like Orban.

      Pair this with shutting down US millitary bases across European territories and in one ill-advised move the US would decapitate it’s ability to project power globally with it’s conventional forces at the same time as destroying it’s domestic economy

      Whilst it is true that Europe cannot match the USA’s millitary might, Europe is not a pushover in this regard either. Even under Trump it seems unlikely the US would plunge itself into outright war with Europe over this and financially Europe easily holds enough cards to resist this diplomatically. If Trump did actually move to take the island by force (because I don’t doubt his stupidity) then I doubt Europe would declare war over it, but I would very much expect the above options of bond sell-offs and millitary expulsions to immediately be deployed.

    21. Dreamsof_Beulah on

      Didn’t Nostradamus predict the the Fool will be King?

    22. HzPips on

      Either France is willing to flex their nukes in some not very secret tests, or only a strongly worded letter. I am afraid that there really isn’t anything in between that would be effective.

    23. ediblednb on

      You don’t want to mess around with the EU. Serious backbone when it comes to war. We might have our own problems but we’d be a powerhouse if it kicked off. The people would be together as one as history has shown.

      We’d be fighting for our democracy and freedom. Whereas the American soldiers would have no valid passionate reason to fight for illegal invasion. They will soon get bored and want to go back to their McDonald’s and Xbox.

    26. Sriber on

      Enough. Sanction everyone who is publicly in favor of annexing Greenland. Threaten America with tariffs and selling bonds. Threats work, appeasement doesn’t. If you are trying to be nice Trump considers you a sucker he can walk over.

    27. Correct-Court-8837 on

      I’m so tired. I think I’ve aged 10 years in two weeks. If this doesn’t lead to mass deaths because of WW3, then it’ll certainly lead to premature deaths because of stress and increased blood pressure.

    28. Turbulent_Pin7635 on

      Europe: Hello, Oni-chan! Could you please don’t threaten the green-iceland? Luv u. Lick smuck lick xxx

    29. Anfros on

      If it came to open conflict all American military personnel in Europe should be held as PoWs until status quo ante in achieved. The US navy should be kept away from the north sea mid-atlantic and Mediterranean, with force if needed.

    30. AmethystOrator on

      For those wondering why he stays focused on Greenland, here’s a key reason:

      > The Oligarchs Pushing for Conquest in Greenland

      > The figures behind the curtain are by no means obscure. Companies like KoBold Metals, a mining outfit helping lead Greenland’s “modern gold rush,” has seen investments from figures like Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, and hedge funds like Andreessen Horowitz. Another company eyeing Greenland is Critical Metals Corp, which is backed by the same hedge fund that Howard Lutnick, now Trump’s commerce secretary, spent years running. Indeed, the investors behind Critical Metals Corp have significant overlap with those investors behind Trump Media—creating what Robert Weissman, who helps run the pro-transparency group Public Citizen, called a “circle of grift.” Many of those same figures also gave hundreds of millions of dollars to Trump’s 2024 campaign, helping relaunch him to the presidency—and helping them profit from Trump’s new imperialism.

      https://newrepublic.com/article/205102/oligarchs-pushing-conquest-greenland-trump

    31. GandalfTheSexay on

      It’s not an us vs them situation. Both Europe and the US can win by working together here

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