Basically, he proposed this: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1qsnkbc/it_wasnt_working_canada_province_ends_drug/
litivy on
It’s a reflection on what a poor politician that Starmer is that he is leaving this low hanging fruit for someone else to pick.
Old_Roof on
I see no reason at all why weed shouldn’t be legalised, taxed and regulated.
Edit. I disagree with ZP that all drugs should be legalised, but weed seems like a no brainer? (pun intended)
It would raise more money for the treasury (estimated to be £1b a year) It would free up police resources, it would be a safer product, create jobs etc. It would end illegal “grows” often involving people from Vietnam etc being trafficked therefore affecting wider criminality, gangs etc.
sbourgenforcer on
I don’t like drugs personally but would rather they were regulated (ie safer) and taxed like tobacco and alcohol.
skinnydog0-0 on
The current approach isn’t working, we should try a different method of dealing with drug addiction.
I don’t think myself or anyone I know would start taking meth, crack or heroine if it was legalised.
Providing the money generated is used to help those people on hard drugs get clean I don’t see what the problem is.
Currently all the money generated from drug use goes into the black market and the country doesn’t benefit from it. This way drugs can be more controlled & taxed.
BobMonkhaus on
“I’ve always liked dancing without taking drink or drugs”
Well I’m definitely not voting for him now. That’s weird.
Bounty_drillah on
Thing is we’ve trialled harm reduction, prescribing addicts with heroin several times. In the 60s and in the 80s, under Thatcher no less. It’s a lot cheaper than the cost of prison spaces, property crime and diseases caused by forcing addicts into a marginal existence.
SmashedWorm64 on
Why isn’t it working? If you follow the law you stay out of harms way. Funny that.
JudasShuffle on
Lotta weed smokers driving round where I live,3 passed me on the road on a 15 min walk.it doesn’t inspire confidence in legalising it.
mugg___ on
i prefer the way the netherlands do it. not strictly legal but there are legal ways to buy.
smith9447 on
Heard this interview this morning. He makes a lot of sense, this from an ex Tory and Brexit voter😮
Intelligent-Price-39 on
Weed has been legal in 40 US states for around a decade. No issues really. Government (the individual states) collect taxes like they do with alcohol. Madness not to do this. Revitalize high streets for instance.
WrigglingWorm on
Yeah the approach should be the death penalty for drug dealers or producers.
mattymattymatty96 on
Anyone who opposes this policy should join the party and campaign and vote against it.
I don’t know about the drugs part. The only reason I can’t vote green however is because of their geopolitical stances, they’re not what today’s world needs.
TheCharalampos on
We’ve got a worlds worth of data that punishing drug addicts doesn’t work. Instead it ensures more addicts turn to crime and meet bad ends.
I don’t think they should be punished.
BennyTTS7889 on
The country could see billions in revenue ripped from black markets if they legalised even just cannabis. But decriminalising needs to happen for all flat out.
RotoTom85 on
Legalise Weed. Increase the punishments and consequences for everything else.
Wild-Perspective-582 on
It would end up with people doing a lot more of them, and therefore a lot more death and health issues for the NHS to deal with.
appletinicyclone on
They did full decriminalization of everything in British colombia in 2023. I don’t know the specifics but it didn’t do much to reduce drug overdose deaths. And it just meant more people nodding outside
For some section of people the only thing that prevents them using is that it’s illegal. We do need to marry some kind of partial Portugal approach but it’s not as simple as saying everything is okay.
Also I really don’t want more people smoking weed on the buses than they already are
I understand it’s use for stress and pain reduction and epilepsy but I think with people under 23 it should have specific medical uses and not just a blanket allowance because it can sap people’s energy increase paranoia and particularly stronger strains can affect people’s minds psychosis wise. Some people make weed their personality. Conversely people on coke not that I agree with it at all, are pretty fucking productive. It’s the choice of the finance industry and party girls.
We shouldn’t make blanket decrim without structures in place to support and filter and they just don’t want to spend money on that at all
The best thing governments can do is increase the standard of living for the working and lower middleclass. If you do that the need for drugs reduces.
Sudden_Fact_733 on
The governments own advisors have been saying this for decades, current policy is unfit for modern life.
dizzguzztn on
Irrespective of your view on drugs you cannot argue that the current system of prohibition is working so I think people should be open to alternatives.
cagemeplenty on
The only party with the right approach to this.
Drug use is rampant in this country. It’s very easy to get drugs. It finances and encourages criminal gangs and the illegal drugs trade. The drugs are often low grade and risky. People get criminalised for having an addiction and issues.
Move to legal, regulated system with support baked in to it. This isn’t treating drugs like cigarettes and alcohol.
Its a public health approach to an issue that won’t go away. And it will also reduce crime.
Effect_Commercial on
It’s crazy how many people want to legalise drugs. We’ve got more people hooked on dopamine due to modern life and now you want to give them legal access to drugs.
Have you not seen how addicted our young generations are to social media. Drugs would destroy a whole generation.
Literally zero long term thinking on the impact of population here.
I work in the community now for 17 years I see daily kids like zombies aged 10 on weed. Tragic.
gathjeisthegoat on
They shouldnt legalise anything they should reduce sentences legalization would take jobs away from working class people and put more money in ultra rich politicians and hereditary buisness peoples pockets
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Basically, he proposed this: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1qsnkbc/it_wasnt_working_canada_province_ends_drug/
It’s a reflection on what a poor politician that Starmer is that he is leaving this low hanging fruit for someone else to pick.
I see no reason at all why weed shouldn’t be legalised, taxed and regulated.
Edit. I disagree with ZP that all drugs should be legalised, but weed seems like a no brainer? (pun intended)
It would raise more money for the treasury (estimated to be £1b a year) It would free up police resources, it would be a safer product, create jobs etc. It would end illegal “grows” often involving people from Vietnam etc being trafficked therefore affecting wider criminality, gangs etc.
I don’t like drugs personally but would rather they were regulated (ie safer) and taxed like tobacco and alcohol.
The current approach isn’t working, we should try a different method of dealing with drug addiction.
I don’t think myself or anyone I know would start taking meth, crack or heroine if it was legalised.
Providing the money generated is used to help those people on hard drugs get clean I don’t see what the problem is.
Currently all the money generated from drug use goes into the black market and the country doesn’t benefit from it. This way drugs can be more controlled & taxed.
“I’ve always liked dancing without taking drink or drugs”
Well I’m definitely not voting for him now. That’s weird.
Thing is we’ve trialled harm reduction, prescribing addicts with heroin several times. In the 60s and in the 80s, under Thatcher no less. It’s a lot cheaper than the cost of prison spaces, property crime and diseases caused by forcing addicts into a marginal existence.
Why isn’t it working? If you follow the law you stay out of harms way. Funny that.
Lotta weed smokers driving round where I live,3 passed me on the road on a 15 min walk.it doesn’t inspire confidence in legalising it.
i prefer the way the netherlands do it. not strictly legal but there are legal ways to buy.
Heard this interview this morning. He makes a lot of sense, this from an ex Tory and Brexit voter😮
Weed has been legal in 40 US states for around a decade. No issues really. Government (the individual states) collect taxes like they do with alcohol. Madness not to do this. Revitalize high streets for instance.
Yeah the approach should be the death penalty for drug dealers or producers.
Anyone who opposes this policy should join the party and campaign and vote against it.
The greens are completely democratic.
https://join.greenparty.org.uk/
I don’t know about the drugs part. The only reason I can’t vote green however is because of their geopolitical stances, they’re not what today’s world needs.
We’ve got a worlds worth of data that punishing drug addicts doesn’t work. Instead it ensures more addicts turn to crime and meet bad ends.
I don’t think they should be punished.
The country could see billions in revenue ripped from black markets if they legalised even just cannabis. But decriminalising needs to happen for all flat out.
Legalise Weed. Increase the punishments and consequences for everything else.
It would end up with people doing a lot more of them, and therefore a lot more death and health issues for the NHS to deal with.
They did full decriminalization of everything in British colombia in 2023. I don’t know the specifics but it didn’t do much to reduce drug overdose deaths. And it just meant more people nodding outside
For some section of people the only thing that prevents them using is that it’s illegal. We do need to marry some kind of partial Portugal approach but it’s not as simple as saying everything is okay.
Also I really don’t want more people smoking weed on the buses than they already are
I understand it’s use for stress and pain reduction and epilepsy but I think with people under 23 it should have specific medical uses and not just a blanket allowance because it can sap people’s energy increase paranoia and particularly stronger strains can affect people’s minds psychosis wise. Some people make weed their personality. Conversely people on coke not that I agree with it at all, are pretty fucking productive. It’s the choice of the finance industry and party girls.
We shouldn’t make blanket decrim without structures in place to support and filter and they just don’t want to spend money on that at all
The best thing governments can do is increase the standard of living for the working and lower middleclass. If you do that the need for drugs reduces.
The governments own advisors have been saying this for decades, current policy is unfit for modern life.
Irrespective of your view on drugs you cannot argue that the current system of prohibition is working so I think people should be open to alternatives.
The only party with the right approach to this.
Drug use is rampant in this country. It’s very easy to get drugs. It finances and encourages criminal gangs and the illegal drugs trade. The drugs are often low grade and risky. People get criminalised for having an addiction and issues.
Move to legal, regulated system with support baked in to it. This isn’t treating drugs like cigarettes and alcohol.
Its a public health approach to an issue that won’t go away. And it will also reduce crime.
It’s crazy how many people want to legalise drugs. We’ve got more people hooked on dopamine due to modern life and now you want to give them legal access to drugs.
Have you not seen how addicted our young generations are to social media. Drugs would destroy a whole generation.
Literally zero long term thinking on the impact of population here.
I work in the community now for 17 years I see daily kids like zombies aged 10 on weed. Tragic.
They shouldnt legalise anything they should reduce sentences legalization would take jobs away from working class people and put more money in ultra rich politicians and hereditary buisness peoples pockets