So long they actually get to stay in Sweden rather than in 3rd countries with lower living standards I’m afraid it’ll be hard to stop the flow of migrants.
Honestly, the only real solution is to say blanket no to refugees, especially from certain regions. Say what you will about Trump, but his travel ban policies does make a lot of sense in this regard.
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….so when America does it it’s bad, but when European countries tighten up on immigration it’s good.
Most of Europe is freaking out about Spain allowing in a bunch of migrants too.
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Too late for tightening rules. Waaaay too late.
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Mass immigration is not a solution for Europe. It worked well in USA, while it was expanding and they needed a lot of workforce, but in Europe it’s just serving business and burning social capital.
Instead of making workforce cheap, so business benefits, we should invest into automation, cheap housing, cheap energy, so actually people benefit. On top of that we need to build strong military and don’t just buy it, produce it.
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Looking beyond the odd vitriol about certain regions that gets spewed around r/Europe every time topics like these come up:
I am genuinely interested what proponents of these solutions believe to be the end goal here? Even if I were to give in to the assumptions that all asylum-seekers are criminals, islamists and generally terrible for our societies, which of these problems do we exactly solve by moving them into central facilities and not letting them leave, work or basically do anything but get on eachothers nerves?
Even if this were to somehow stop immigration completely, I cannot think of a single positive outcome these sort of situations can have? Mind you, they are not prisons. People can still get out if they really desire to. If you were to throw me into a mandated concentration-hostel with 1000 other Germans I would probably have murder on my mind by the second week and would not want myself to roam the streets.
While I abhorr the usual racist sentiments about just gunning down everything that moves right at the border, that is still a conclusive idea in itself.
Please spare me the “what about our women”, “so we just do nothing”, “they have smartphones!” talking points. I’ve heard them.
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Currently people are calling those concentration camps
isthatabingo on
As an American, I always get a chuckle out of how vehemently racist Europeans are when we’re always dogging on ourselves. Like yeah, America is racist, but we don’t hold a candle to yall.
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So long they actually get to stay in Sweden rather than in 3rd countries with lower living standards I’m afraid it’ll be hard to stop the flow of migrants.
Honestly, the only real solution is to say blanket no to refugees, especially from certain regions. Say what you will about Trump, but his travel ban policies does make a lot of sense in this regard.
….so when America does it it’s bad, but when European countries tighten up on immigration it’s good.
Most of Europe is freaking out about Spain allowing in a bunch of migrants too.
Too late for tightening rules. Waaaay too late.
Mass immigration is not a solution for Europe. It worked well in USA, while it was expanding and they needed a lot of workforce, but in Europe it’s just serving business and burning social capital.
Instead of making workforce cheap, so business benefits, we should invest into automation, cheap housing, cheap energy, so actually people benefit. On top of that we need to build strong military and don’t just buy it, produce it.
Looking beyond the odd vitriol about certain regions that gets spewed around r/Europe every time topics like these come up:
I am genuinely interested what proponents of these solutions believe to be the end goal here? Even if I were to give in to the assumptions that all asylum-seekers are criminals, islamists and generally terrible for our societies, which of these problems do we exactly solve by moving them into central facilities and not letting them leave, work or basically do anything but get on eachothers nerves?
Even if this were to somehow stop immigration completely, I cannot think of a single positive outcome these sort of situations can have? Mind you, they are not prisons. People can still get out if they really desire to. If you were to throw me into a mandated concentration-hostel with 1000 other Germans I would probably have murder on my mind by the second week and would not want myself to roam the streets.
While I abhorr the usual racist sentiments about just gunning down everything that moves right at the border, that is still a conclusive idea in itself.
Please spare me the “what about our women”, “so we just do nothing”, “they have smartphones!” talking points. I’ve heard them.
Currently people are calling those concentration camps
As an American, I always get a chuckle out of how vehemently racist Europeans are when we’re always dogging on ourselves. Like yeah, America is racist, but we don’t hold a candle to yall.