La riforma minaccia di tagliare i fondi all’università gallese dopo il divieto di dibattito della società studentesca

The UK remake seems so low budget compared to the US original…

Yet again Reform showing just exactly how much they care about freedom of speech.

“The group – which is run by students through the independent Students’ Union and not by Bangor University itself …”

Any opportunity to target universities, even when the ‘culprits’ of a situation are not the university.

Petty sods at reform. A Society at a uni refuses to debate them? Defund the University (which had no role in it) & screw over an entire area (Because Bangor university is a pretty big thing for Gwynedd)

It’s kinda amusing they wanted to send the MP from Runcorn. Bangor isn’t in Runcorn and reform had the chance to send someone standing for the Senedd.

Universities are meant to be a place for debate and discourse, and yes that often means talking about the things you don’t want to.

After all, “when words fail, violence begins” – Rabbi Jonathan Sacks circa 2011

Here’s a nice poem on the matter written by cameron-kelly in 2025:

When Discourse Ends, Violence Begins

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When discourse ends, violence begins—

Not with thunder, but with whispers thin.

The table cleared, the chairs pushed back,

No words remain to bridge the crack.

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The ink runs dry, the scrolls are torn,

The olive branch replaced with scorn.

A silence sharp as shattered glass,

Where reason fades and shadows pass.

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Steel speaks loud where voices failed,

And truth is bound, its tongue impaled.

The fire that once warmed the room

Now feeds the forge of coming doom.

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But even in the ash and dust,

Where swords have ruled and laws combust,

A single voice, a trembling thread,

Can stitch the wounds where hope has bled.

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So let the pen not yield to blade,

Let courage speak though peace has frayed.

For every war that silence wins

Was born the day discourse ends.

Isabelle Oakshott summed their incoherent position up perfectly with her tweet:

*”I want to go to Bangor University” said nobody ever. Especially if Bangor University is stripped of government funding and student loan facilities by @reformparty_uk Is that “in line with your values,” poppets?*

If nobody “worthwhile” goes there, then Reform UK doesn’t need to speak to them, do they?

See also: 2018 Lee vs Ashers Baking Co. They don’t have to host them. Or anyone they don’t want to.

Reform UK have countless other outlets from which to spew their bile without getting all knickers in a twist about a student body that doesn’t want to host them.

Ah Temu Trump behaviour. Fragile egos and punitive behaviour for anyone that disagrees, while complaining about fReEdOm of sPeEch

Reform voters won’t care, it’s not as if any of them ever went to university.

Of course they would threaten basic rights if it didn’t go their way.

The society shouldn’t of declined to debate them, this also falls in line with my opinions on a lot of people saying we should ban twitter.

Just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t matter how strongly you might do so, you should not suppress their voices, you are setting a very dangerous precedent by choicing whos voices matter and those who don’t. They seem passionate enough that im sure they could of handled a debate against reform with no problem.

I am left wing, always have been, i do not agree with a lot of reform voter opinions but i will atleast hear what is being said because your concerns are just as important as mine.

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Threatening the university is ridiculous though, literally has nothing to do with them outside of the debating society using the university’s name.

Reform taking the fragile ego page from the Trump manual now too I see.

It’s actually funny they got so upset about getting snubbed when they’ve been doing it themselves, but then again being hypocritical is one of the requirements for the Reformatives.

This is “banning” Reform in the same way that I’m “banning” them if I don’t invite them in to discuss politics when they knock on my door during campaigning season.

Freedom of speech does not impose an obligation on others to listen.

Trump’s playbook .

The fascists here are going to destroy what’s left of democracy here

Do not agree with debate ban but The Reform instinct to crush dissent is a clear exposure of their fascism.

The Bangor Debating & Political Society – which is run by students through the independent Students’ Union and not by Bangor University itself – said they had **”zero tolerance for any form of racism, transphobia, or homophobia displayed by the members of Reform UK”.**

There you go: at least there is a political debating group that has it down to a tee as to what Reform UK actually stand for and it’s MO, which is to create division, persecution and hate. Perhaps other groups and especially the MSM should do the same.