Chiedere a una collega se sta entrando in menopausa “non è una molestia”, stabilisce il tribunale | Posta quotidiana in linea
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15545405/Asking-female-colleague-going-menopause-not-harassment-tribunal-rules.html
di CasualSmurf
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So calling a bald man bald is harassment, but getting upset and asking a woman if she’s on the menopause isn’t?
Guess as long as they didn’t ask if she had hysteria it’s ok?
‘You’re just acting that way because you’re going through the change’
Disgusting
Sounds like we need an addition to the rule “Never ask a man his salary, or a woman her age”. Or “conduct yourself like a decent person” would be a good one too.
On brand. The Daily Mail loves writing about topical shit like this haha
‘is someone going through the change?’
This wasn’t a case of someone asking in order to support a colleague. There is nothing good faith about this phrasing, it is belittling and it’s a disgrace that the judgement did not accept that.
A reminder as its clearly needed:
Being insensitive does not constitute harassment. It might mean they are a twat, but that’s it.
I’m laughing at all the comments here and in The Daily Fail [sic] where it’s evident 99% didn’t actually read the article.
Weird outcome here. They rule that it’s not inherently harassment to ask if someone’s going through the menopause if its genuinely meant (which of course is not what the headline implies, shit tribunal journalism as always), but they seem completely credulous when it comes to the manager’s motivations.
Saying “you’re just acting that way because you’re hormonal” is blatantly not an effort to support someone, and she also did win a claim for constructive dismissal because she was victimised following a complaint.
Okay, so it is a bit more nuanced than the headline suggests (as always). If she was being open about her symptoms in order to encourage openness around menopause, then theoretically it should have been okay for peers to raise it when contextually appropriate.
But language matters. “The change?”. Fucks sake. “How is your descent into crone-hood going?”
Apply common sense, nobody gets hurt or upset.
But when coworkers question whether the man with his work eyes fixed on his co-workers’ bellies has dementia when he demands to be informed of the state of their uteruses every single day?
Now that will be harassment, because *you* mean something, you meanie, while the guy? he’s just being friendly.