Alton Towers fa inversione di marcia sul piano di limitare il pass per disabili per le persone con ADHD e autismo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2gyggxv4no
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25 commenti
Good, it wasn’t a fast pass, it provided the ability to participate in a virtual queue.
Ergo someone with anxiety can sit in a quiet area of the park until it is their turn instead of waiting somewhere crowded or loud in queue.
You don’t jump any queues and the virtual wait is often longer than the regular queue wait, especially at Alton Towers I’ve found
Merlin 4 billion in debt and have had their credit rating downgraded recently. I’d say they don’t really need this negative attention right now. This whole episode has certainly made me think twice about ever going again, they’ve shown me what they’re all about.
oh NOW they put autism in the headline? When it was announced the focused on ADHD and anxiety, funny that.
It’s like playing competitive pokemon with all this u-turning.
This is great news. My autistic son simply can’t queue, he will just run off.
I do wonder if they had legal advice that it might be classed as discrimination to do what they were intending.
As someone who has visited the park with someone who needs RAP, it’s a real shame. The system fundamentally didn’t work to support those who needed it and drastic change is still needed.
Alton Towers still acknowledge that, so I suspect their planned changes will be implemented anyway.
I didn’t realise it initially included people with autism, I’ve got anxiety myself but never felt like it was the type of disability to “deserve” the pass (much as I’m aware that it’s a spectrum and that one person may be far worse than another) but keeping it from people with autism is just straight up bollocks and the fact that it was somewhat hidden until they could use it for good boy points in their u-turn statement like they’re doing a nice thing is cunt behaviour.
It’s a shame they’ve U-turned, it was a step in the right direction imo. Far too many RAP users at the parks resulting in a terrible experience for both the normal and RAP queues.
I’ve got adhd and anxiety myself and I think it’s stupid to let people with it jump the que.
If you have anxiety the worst place you want to be is on a fucking roller-coaster.
Good. It was a pathetic, cruel, and plain discriminatory idea, and highlights the current antiquated attitudes towards disabled people.
All of a sudden I’ve got a random surge of anxiety
I think they were right in what they said they just worded it badly . If more people have disabled passes than non disabled they will end up waiting longer & this will have a knock on effect for the whole park .
I’ve gone to Merlin parks for years, these passes are constantly abused by people whose parents are pulling a fast one and jumping the queues because little Bob or whatever doesn’t want to wait like everyone else. My son has autism and he learnt like we all should that patience is part of life and at the end of the day we have all paid for a day out and deserve to be treated equally.
An example I saw was on Hyperia at Thorpe Park, we got chatting to a mum and her strapping six foot son who was queuing with us in a two hour line as they had already used the RAP pass earlier and wanted another go. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him and he waited patiently with us. I agree some people have issues but Merlin were just trying to reduce the passes to a more fair level and of course social media won again.
Lol, bottled it. Said what everyone was thinking and gave into the pressure.
Fuck Merlin forever for even trying this. This was plain and simple discrimination. I mean, their parks are a clusterfuck in the first place and pretty much run by 16-18 year olds for the purpose of cheap labour, I decided long ago to avoid them but this just confirmed they’re assholes and they’re not getting my money.
Last time I went to Chessington me and my family almost got killed because of some stupid 16 year old kid telling us one thing, changing her mind, changing her mind again and then we almost got smashed by a ride because of it. Complaint was put in but TOTALLY ignored. Someone is going to die in one of their parks….
Is it really that difficult to explain to people that are uncomfortable in large crowds that their recreational activities should not be planned for areas that are always crowded?
They used to do virtual queueing anyway, back when they cared about visitor experiences rather than limiting how many rides you’d get in a day
They should make them sit in an empty room while waiting instead of getting to walk around the park and do other things
I have a child who benefits greatly from queue passes due to ASD/ADHD. Never got one of these Access Passes with the icons as we only do Paultons, and they’ve been fine with other evidence in the past – so not sure what thresholds she would meet (she receives a low rate of Mobility DLA and middle rate Care)
She cannot stand still as her ADHD is very high Hyperactive. Something has to be moving at all times. Even when she’s trying to sleep, she’s wiggling constantly. Anyone who doubts ADHD is real would soon change their minds meeting her.
This makes queuing extremely difficult as she will bolt off (as well as the expected meltdowns, becoming a dead weight on the floor etc).
The first year we went before I realised this scheme was in place, we were chasing her down queues (extremely difficult and stressful when you are packed like sardines as you can imagine). This is also very difficult for the people in the queue who need to patiently accomodate for us, and listen to me try everything to calm her down before usually just bailing on queuing at all. Most of the day ended up being spent in the playgrounds or splash bits.
I think there needs to be a threshold though, as people are absolutely taking the piss. IMO, I can’t see any good reason why these passes cannot be given to those who attend with their legal carer. I have ASD and ADHD too, but taking every “nice to have” ruins it for those that genuinely cannot have a day out without these accommodations. These schemes are heaving under questionable entitlement.
I still think they need to adopt the pleasure beach system
Merlins system now is
One person has a disability that means they get a RAP
They can choose to take 3 others with that RAP
This means that if a family of 4 go and one person has a disability thats 4 slots taken on the RAP which caps at 50 for example.
This means that the RAP fills FAST so theres been limited availability for years and people complain about it constantly but they can’t make it unlimited because if they did then people who need the RAP because of impairments that mean they CANNOT or struggle to queue would struggle just as much with the RAP as they do with standard access.
People have been caught abusing this CONSTANTLY because Nimbus does not require proof for ADHD or Anxiety because these things can often take years to get clear proof for so they removed them along with Autism(which was dumb)
As an example i once saw a woman in a queue to try her luck at picking up a fully booked out access pass in Alton Towers to “Look more disabled” oh and yeah thats the fun part you have to queue for about 30 minutes in some cases to get the access pass.
The counter to this was that the nimbus system would allow you to submit proof that you actually struggled to Queue due to bathroom needs, physical disability or other needs that did not get diagnosed. So somebody with Anxiety would still get the pass if they had proof that their anxiety was debilitating enough to stop them from being able to queue.
Now Blackpool pleasure beach system is easy you show proof, you get one access pass and one carers ticket who is included in that access pass. You want to add family on you pay a reduced access pass price and that maxes at 4. That need to pay to add it on actually puts people off abusing the system.
I don’t agree with this, as someone with agoraphobia and anxiety, I don’t expect a theme park of all places to cater to me. Its my responsibility to work on my own anxiety.
A u-turn on a sensible plan because of the outrage from the chronically offended who didn’t read what they were planning to do. All they were proposing was to remove the pass from people who only had “struggles in crowds” on their disability card.
It wouldn’t have affected any of the more disabled visitors, just the group of people who like to take advantage of minor disabilities to the detriment of those that actually need that access.
This news sucks if you have a kid who has “severe” autism, but those voices are drowned out by the TikTok autistics who were furious their special treatment was going to be taken away.
Either wait in the line or go when its quieter (i recommend the fright nights in October) you will hit infinitely more rides