Starmer ha capito ciò che i suoi predecessori non avevano capito: che la Gran Bretagna sta meglio in Europa che con gli Stati Uniti

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/starmer-nato-europe-us-trump-defence-ukraine-b2920255.html

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  1. I thinks various UK politicians have been pragmatic and realistic enough to realize this, but the political climate in the UK electorate have clung to the idea of the “special relationship” that came out of the second world war. A sentiment that was amplified by the loss of the Empire, both literally and psychologically.

  2. DeRpY_CUCUMBER on

    Weird how the US, specifically Obama, told the UK voters to their faces that this was going to be the case before they voted for brexit. That Britain would be better off in the EU. He was lambasted for daring to meddle in European politics. 10 years later the Brit’s are just figuring out your friend(US) was telling you the truth, and trying to save you from a mess of a decision.

  3. I’m pretty sure the UK will rejoin after a decade or two but hopefully without needing to first pass through a horrible period with a reform UK government 

  4. hoopjoness on

    I love that they’re discussing it openly now – we are stronger together. We share a border via the tunnel and centuries of history but makes me nervous to welcome them back in and then the electorate votes in Farage/ pro US govt and we go through it all again.

  5. MonkeLord1234 on

    His predecessors knew it too, it’s just their greed/pride took priority over the country as a whole.

  6. His predecessors also knew this, but they figured out they could capitalize grievances against the EU to further their own political careers without any care whatsoever for the enormous price Britain would have to pay.

    However, if the polls are to be believed, it seems the british people will have to plunge further into the depths of far-right populism until they realize they are being conned.

  7. We’re better off with both. So when one goes to shit we can just chill with the other until things settle down.

    Rinse and repeat, the US is the bad guy now, but come 2030, we could be looking at an EU headed up by AfD and RN.

  8. redrighthand_ on

    Absolutely delusional to think the British public will accept the euro and Schengen whilst reform leads in the polls.

    The EU should rightfully hold off any further progress until the election happens or it’s a total waste of time if PM Farage becomes a reality.

  9. Any-Original-6113 on

    Let’s not forget, Farage and his “Reform” party are popular in Britain.

  10. Upbeat_Ice1921 on

    The only reason Starmer is running to Europe is because Trump is deranged and unreliable. In three years time he’s out of office and a much more sane Vance or Newsom will be in office.

    Anyway, have people seen the polls? The next government will be a Tory/Reform coalition. This shows that even after all these years the British electorate is still deeply suspicious of the EU (and rightly so)

  11. Just don’t come here and peddle your shitty ass restrictions and censorship, we already got enough of problems with that without the UK.

  12. Darkone539 on

    There have, at most, been two pro brexit prime ministers, and calling may pro brexit was a stretch.

  13. Tiberinvs on

    He might have grasped it himself but the problem is that voters over there are too stupid to do the same. Labour are polling at record lows pretty much, while Reform is topping the polls and the Tories, which are just a little bit less anti-EU than Reform, are second. And they both said they would scrap new deals signed with the EU if not even previous ones, see what Farage threatened to do with the Withdrawal Agreement recently.

    Whatever new deal we sign with the UK needs to include very high costs or harsh financial penalties for disavowing them, with money placed in escrow, in case they elect some of these retards. Thankfully the Commission is going in that direction with stuff like SAFE or the SPS agreement

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