Le calorose parole di Marco Rubio a Viktor Orbán rafforzano i timori dell’UE che gli Stati Uniti cerchino la disunità in Europa

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/17/marco-rubio-viktor-orban-eu-disunity-analysis

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  1. Adorable-Database187 on

    There is no fear or risk or possibility, this is just the US National Security Strategy being followed.

    Here in black and white, published by the US.

    [2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf](https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf)

    >We want to support our allies in preserving the freedom and security of Europe, while restoring Europe’s civilizational self-confidence and Western identity;

    >America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit, and the growing influence of patriotic European parties indeed gives cause for great optimism

    It means exactly what it sounds like

    [JD Vance stuns Munich conference with blistering attack on Europe’s leaders | JD Vance | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/14/jd-vance-stuns-munich-conference-with-blistering-attack-on-europes-leaders)

    [Revealed: Trump-linked US Christian ‘fundamentalists’ pour millions of ‘dark money’ into Europe, boosting the far Right | openDemocracy](https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/revealed-trump-linked-us-christian-fundamentalists-pour-millions-of-dark-money-into-europe-boosting-the-far-right/)

    [Revealed: dozens of European politicians linked to US ‘incubator for extremism’ | openDemocracy](https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/revealed-dozens-of-european-politicians-linked-to-us-incubator-for-extremism/)

  2. fucking_4_virginity on

    I don’t fear they do. I’m a hundred percent sure they do.

    The sooner we wake up to that reality, the better.

    We’re now in a hybrid war with THREE former or current superpowers.

  3. imagine praising someone who regularly clashes with your other closest allies..

  4. Naive_Class7033 on

    It is ironic how Maga promised to stop swnding money elsewhere and focus on domestic issues and then they spend so much energy interfering in European affairs.

  5. AlloAll0 on

    Fears?

    The US want’s to destroy the EU. It’s their stated goal.

    We need to close the credit taps and destroy them first. They’re already on the brink of bankruptcy. Many US states already want to be free of Washington oppression. Let’s turn up the heat.

  6. Free-Way-9220 on

    Rubio visited Slovakia and Hungary. He went out of his way to cozy up to Putin’s biggest allies. I don’t think many people have quite grasped just how much Europe (and the world) is going to change as Trump’s realigns the US with Vladimir Putin as his #1 ally, and the rest of Europe (aside from the Putinist dictators) as an adversary

    Late edit fun fact: Trump also recently dropped all sanctions against Belarus

  7. WinningTheSpaceRace on

    The US has never been a reliable ally. We need to accelerate all efforts to independence from them now.

  8. US wants EU to fall through??? That must be as fascinating as realising the sky is blue.

    Divide and conquer, they have the same goal as Putin.

    And funny the US is as divided as I have ever seen it in my 50ish years of life

  9. tomaznewton on

    are EU member states allowed to be against immigration? is that everyone’s biggest gripe with orban? each country should be able to maintain some form of their identity no? who is flying immigrants to the border with belarus as hybrid warfare? its not orban.. russia has weaponized so many things against you and you are over here worried about america.. ?

  10. No_College8942 on

    Atleast they didn’t send Bannon this time. It’s OK, we kick out Orban from the country soon, which hopefully signs the world that this so called populist shit is over.

  11. bindermichi on

    Overdue to cut US-financed think tanks from European financial networks and their access to political institutions

  12. Tasty-General-420 on

    The US is not your friend. Not your ally. Don’t trust them.

  13. Intrepid-Routine-875 on

    Idk are you all blind? They have been doing these for years. You need Rubio meeting Orban to be suspicious?
    The true question si why you don’t wake up?

  14. iaNCURdehunedoara on

    Isn’t it ironic? Europe fears that America will do to us what America and Europe have done to every country in the global south?

    Weird how *now* it’s a problem, but not when America and Europe did it to other countries. This is just another phase in the “they’re treating us like we’re a third world country” crisis that EU is going through.

    European leaders were happy with Trump invading and kidnapping Maduro, but got angry when Trump was going to take Greenland. European leaders were happy to help Trump in destabilizing Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so on, but now that America is trying to destabilize us it’s a problem.

    When you’re all too happy to weaken international laws, international institutions, and act like a bully when it benefits you, you shouldn’t be surprised when the same happens to you.

    It’s going to be even more ironic when America uses Israel and the Palantir panopticon, that our governments invited into our countries, to facilitate said divide.

  15. Ok-Application-8045 on

    Divide and rule. Let’s hope his endorsement backfires. Come on Hungarians, you can get rid of that authoritarian prick once and for all!

  16. non_numero_horas on

    Birds of a feather flock together, or as it is said in Hungarian: madarat tolláról, embert barátjáról – which literally translates to “you can identify a bird’s species from its feather, and you can judge a man’s character from who their friends are”

  17. EndeLarsson on

    Fears? It is clear for everyone for a long time. To the east we have ruzzia, a known enemy, that wants to break Europe… to the west we have US, an declared ally but in reality a pervese enemy, that wants to break Europe. Hard times for Europe, but we will prevail. We always do.

  18. Haxemply on

    Trump and Putin both actively working on keeping Orban in power. I wonder how much chance the Tisza party actually has in this case.

  19. Matinloc on

    it is plain they seek disunity but is not necessarly what they will get

    a united eu scares america

  20. RH33000BDX on

    While gangs, cartels and Mafia families fight each other for territory they agree on one thing: rule-based, democratic governance must be destroyed at all costs! So with mafia states like Russia, Hungary and now the USA

  21. SwiftJedi77 on

    They’ve literally published their intent to break up the EU, as they have published that they see a more unified EU as a potential superpower and threat.

  22. rachelm791 on

    Divide and conquer politically and economically to make the small and medium size democracies in Europe align themselves to American hegemony.

  23. SisterOfBattIe on

    Did those geniuses figure it out before or after they literally said they want Europe divided, and were giddy about UK leaving the EU?

  24. Professional_Fix4056 on

    expected nothing less from the cowardly traitors

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