Don’t we define poverty like IQ. It’s based around the average and therefore a certain percentage will always be in poverty.
Proper_War_3717 on
Is this cos of actual reductions in child poverty or just doing the tory thing of redefining it to make our numbers look better?
Shockwavepulsar on
Of course people are already framing this as a terrible thing.
Tartan_Samurai on
>***Official figures on the number of children living in poverty in the UK are expected to be revised down over concerns they have not been accurately reflecting household income.***
>*For more than 30 years, poverty statistics have been based on an annual survey of households across the UK.*
>*But officials believe those taking part in the survey have been under-reporting how much they receive in benefits.*
>*From next month, child poverty estimates will use data from benefit records, which is likely to mean figures dating back to 2018 will be lower than previously stated.*
Puzzled-Job9556 on
There is no child poverty in the UK. Shit parents on the other hand….
tigerjed on
“But officials believe those taking part in the survey have been under-reporting how much they receive in benefits.”
Seems suspiciously like they are setting up to say those in benefits are better off than those working on lower incomes.or not as far away as people have been told.
Salty-Bid1597 on
Jfc they have been using self reported benefit income figures for *30 years* when they had access to actual payment figures since at least 2018. What on earth were they thinking? Why would anyone lie about the amount of benefits they receive? I can’t imagine…
Reported income was 23% lower than actual income. Depending on how flat the distribution is at that point (probably quite) that could lift swathes of people out of their definition of poverty. And that’s just benefit income – how many actually reported side gig/cash in hand income accurately? None?
This might blow some entire careers out of the water. The very foundations of the Resolution Foundation may crumble. Torsten Bell’s entire life has been build on a lie.
In fact one suspects self interest may have played a part in continuing to use the wrong methodology if the right methodology meant you were out of a job.
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Don’t we define poverty like IQ. It’s based around the average and therefore a certain percentage will always be in poverty.
Is this cos of actual reductions in child poverty or just doing the tory thing of redefining it to make our numbers look better?
Of course people are already framing this as a terrible thing.
>***Official figures on the number of children living in poverty in the UK are expected to be revised down over concerns they have not been accurately reflecting household income.***
>*For more than 30 years, poverty statistics have been based on an annual survey of households across the UK.*
>*But officials believe those taking part in the survey have been under-reporting how much they receive in benefits.*
>*From next month, child poverty estimates will use data from benefit records, which is likely to mean figures dating back to 2018 will be lower than previously stated.*
There is no child poverty in the UK. Shit parents on the other hand….
“But officials believe those taking part in the survey have been under-reporting how much they receive in benefits.”
Seems suspiciously like they are setting up to say those in benefits are better off than those working on lower incomes.or not as far away as people have been told.
Jfc they have been using self reported benefit income figures for *30 years* when they had access to actual payment figures since at least 2018. What on earth were they thinking? Why would anyone lie about the amount of benefits they receive? I can’t imagine…
Reported income was 23% lower than actual income. Depending on how flat the distribution is at that point (probably quite) that could lift swathes of people out of their definition of poverty. And that’s just benefit income – how many actually reported side gig/cash in hand income accurately? None?
This might blow some entire careers out of the water. The very foundations of the Resolution Foundation may crumble. Torsten Bell’s entire life has been build on a lie.
In fact one suspects self interest may have played a part in continuing to use the wrong methodology if the right methodology meant you were out of a job.