Anything that adds to your cost of living deters you from having children.
That being said, unfreezing repayment thresholds does a lot more than cutting interest rates.
NetflixSux247 on
Maybe the fact that shitty houses can cost half a million might be more of a factor.
Lazy_Crab_3584 on
Er… Didn’t a conservative government oversee the more recent changes to student loans?
ThrowawayGreekGod on
Her party is literally responsible for this, and she’s not even suggesting walking it back 😑
grey_hat_uk on
Wow, I mean maybe but out of all the issues and still no one looking at reality and deciding to fix the system to accommodate a shinking population I have zero thoughts to the 5th party placeholder leader.
MysteriousHat3705 on
No Kemi, I’m put off because I don’t earn enough money to have children. My loan doesn’t even cross my mind.
Popular_View_5411 on
1.) Tories introduced policies that increased student debt significantly.
2.) Tories introduced policies that inflated the price of houses
3.) Tories introduced policies to dissuade people from having children like the two child benefit cap
4.) Tories oversaw the casualisation of employment making jobs less secure.
5 ) Tories saw remote learning during COVID as just as valuable as in-person education despite many people forming social and professional relationships in university including romantic partners.
Tories now shocked there’s a demographic crisis.
Cynical_Classicist on
Bringing them into a country ruined by your party would put them off.
HospitalAmazing1445 on
In that case the political party that brought us Plan 2 loans is clearly unfit to ever lead the country again…
ThePlanck on
I wonder what her party would have done if they had been in power for most of the last 15 years
Sam_and_Linny on
Kemi Badenoch puts me off having children. If someone so callous can be the head of a political party, I wonder what hope my children might have
Pogeos on
She is totally sensible within the current system. The only alternative system I can see is the one where university education is totally free* but severely restricted to only top performing student (perhaps 1/5 of the current cohort). The rest should either pay full price for the Uni (and take loans on some sort of commercial arrangement) or wouldn’t get into Uni. I don’t think people would like such an arrangement.
The arrangement where uni education is free and people pay for it through general taxation would lead to proliferation of all sorts of junk degrees and would greatly incentivise unis to grab as many students as they can physically fit in
1_BAR on
If that’s the case, why is the birthrate declining in almost every country on earth. I love tory logic.
Deepmidwinter2025 on
Says the woman from the party that made student loads so expensive.
She is such an opportunist.
50_61S-----165_97E on
Right wing politicians know that the solution to low birth rates is to make housing more affordable. But they refuse to admit that because building homes goes against the interests of their NIMBY voter base.
psioniclizard on
14 years of her parties government and Brexit did a pretty good job qt achieving that for many of us.
bureaucrat_chaos on
Isn’t it a bit too late to do something about the interest rate? I’m at £70k on a plan 2. You can abolish interest rates entirely and I still won’t be able to pay it off.
pr2thej on
Or, ykno maybe 15 years of austerity politics did that.
LostNitcomb on
> Conservative leader said she’d be £100,000 in debt if she had been forced to take out the Plan 2 loans, as she suggested no one should be going to university to study floral arrangement
Is there a degree course for *floral arrangement*? Or is that just Kemi talking bullshit?
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Anything that adds to your cost of living deters you from having children.
That being said, unfreezing repayment thresholds does a lot more than cutting interest rates.
Maybe the fact that shitty houses can cost half a million might be more of a factor.
Er… Didn’t a conservative government oversee the more recent changes to student loans?
Her party is literally responsible for this, and she’s not even suggesting walking it back 😑
Wow, I mean maybe but out of all the issues and still no one looking at reality and deciding to fix the system to accommodate a shinking population I have zero thoughts to the 5th party placeholder leader.
No Kemi, I’m put off because I don’t earn enough money to have children. My loan doesn’t even cross my mind.
1.) Tories introduced policies that increased student debt significantly.
2.) Tories introduced policies that inflated the price of houses
3.) Tories introduced policies to dissuade people from having children like the two child benefit cap
4.) Tories oversaw the casualisation of employment making jobs less secure.
5 ) Tories saw remote learning during COVID as just as valuable as in-person education despite many people forming social and professional relationships in university including romantic partners.
Tories now shocked there’s a demographic crisis.
Bringing them into a country ruined by your party would put them off.
In that case the political party that brought us Plan 2 loans is clearly unfit to ever lead the country again…
I wonder what her party would have done if they had been in power for most of the last 15 years
Kemi Badenoch puts me off having children. If someone so callous can be the head of a political party, I wonder what hope my children might have
She is totally sensible within the current system. The only alternative system I can see is the one where university education is totally free* but severely restricted to only top performing student (perhaps 1/5 of the current cohort). The rest should either pay full price for the Uni (and take loans on some sort of commercial arrangement) or wouldn’t get into Uni. I don’t think people would like such an arrangement.
The arrangement where uni education is free and people pay for it through general taxation would lead to proliferation of all sorts of junk degrees and would greatly incentivise unis to grab as many students as they can physically fit in
If that’s the case, why is the birthrate declining in almost every country on earth. I love tory logic.
Says the woman from the party that made student loads so expensive.
She is such an opportunist.
Right wing politicians know that the solution to low birth rates is to make housing more affordable. But they refuse to admit that because building homes goes against the interests of their NIMBY voter base.
14 years of her parties government and Brexit did a pretty good job qt achieving that for many of us.
Isn’t it a bit too late to do something about the interest rate? I’m at £70k on a plan 2. You can abolish interest rates entirely and I still won’t be able to pay it off.
Or, ykno maybe 15 years of austerity politics did that.
> Conservative leader said she’d be £100,000 in debt if she had been forced to take out the Plan 2 loans, as she suggested no one should be going to university to study floral arrangement
Is there a degree course for *floral arrangement*? Or is that just Kemi talking bullshit?