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    I Paesi Bassi sono costretti a riconsiderare l’imposta del 36% sui guadagni non realizzati dopo massicce critiche

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    1. GaddockTeegFunPolice on

      Bfmtimes seems to be a tiny newspaper located in new delhi india. This is ai propaganda slop

    2. DatingYella on

      One move after another they have to backtrack.

      Same with Nexperia

      Is this their century of humiliation?

    3. boiledbarnacle on

      Unrealized Gains taxes is one of the most absurd forms of taxes.

    4. curorororo on

      How about they try thinking next time first.

      Is the government running out of money or something? Are they so hard on cash that they want people to liquidate their investments before tax season every year?

    5. rough0perator on

      I’m shocked I tell you, shocked

      Who could’ve seen that coming

    6. mortenlu on

      What is the thinking here? Can someone point me to a coherent argument for this policy?

    7. Upstairs_Tradition70 on

      Ah yes taxing the rich, this will surely not get attacked by paid shills

    9. TomSki2 on

      It sounds like a populist move with little thinking behind, other than “let’s milk these speculators.”

      So you have 10,000 euros gain and pay tax on it. Then your assets get hammered on the stock/crypto market next year. Does the government reimburse you?

      And if it goes up, do you pay the tax each year? Aside from fairness issues, what a logistical nightmare for everyone involved.

    10. eo_oe on

      Um If I take into account that I’m an unrealized dead person, can I take all the benefits of a dead person and just stop paying taxes and health / social contribution and just get on with my NOT life ?
      Asking for a dead friend and that is a dead serious question.

    11. LitmusPitmus on

      isn’t this what people wanted though? a wealth tax was always just a tax on unrealised gains they just skipped the part where it only applied to the richest.

    12. ForTheGloryOfAmn on

      Instead of focusing on national and sovereign economic growth, no let’s focus on stealing the money that hasn’t even been created yet.

    13. No_Conversation_9325 on

      That was obvious. Funny how Americans flooded the subs though

    15. ayase_2006 on

      I think it should be taxed the unrealised gains that are used as collateral for loans. Because you are realising them.

      But taxing all unrealised gains will stop people from saving in pension pots, etc

    16. Novat1993 on

      Can’t the gov just buy stocks with the tax money and reap all those gains themselves?

    17. AtraVenator on

      Just treat big asset-backed borrowing as a taxable event.

      If you borrow against publicly traded assets above a high threshold (say €5m to €20m) and you are ultra high net worth, part of that borrowing is treated as a deemed capital gain.

      Much simpler that this mess. 

    18. Number2Idiot on

      How about we tax unrealised gains when the total estate is above a certain amount and whenever they are used as loan collaterals (bare minimum)? Why is the idea so stupid if we actually think the implementation through, and consider it a counterweight against extreme untaxed wealth?

      No one cares about a measly couple thousand euro portfolio. Or at least we shouldn’t. But the amount of actual money stuck on the speculative bubble instead of circulating is legit dangerous, from an economic perspective, while also fueling populistic discourse. Graph line go up, and yet people feel squeezed. A bullish stock market coinciding with a bearish human market.

      Sometimes it feels we’re importing the dumbest american talking points. Some people talking about this sound like rural americans complaining about wealth taxes, as if they’re anywhere near the threshold to be targeted by effective tax policy (though here I wasn’t able to figure out if this was a flat tax or not; flat tax would be deeply stupid, as they often are). Anyway, let’s continue allowing our money to be syphoned into a handful of people’s infinite money glitch while we common folk fight over the scraps. It’ll surely trickle down or something.

      All this said, we can’t ignore actual risks. 36% would be a shock if done outright. And the taxation needs to be realized in a way that does not force sudden market shocks too, perhaps spaced out over time allowing the taxed individuals to raise the money in a way where their own investments (and everyone else’s) aren’t negatively impacted by any closed positions. I’m a stock owner. About 1/3 of my wealth is in unrealised gains. I’m in favour of this tax concept. We just need good faith discussion on this, and frankly I feel most opposition just isn’t.

    19. clauEB on

      Great idea, if this existed in the US the tech billionaires would actually be paying some taxes.

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