I meant it at the time but reserve the right to flip flop and change position later
dondealga on
so we’ll be standing “militarily” with Iran, illegally attacked by Israel-USA?
donmarrua on
basically chipping away at the status quo that Ireland is militarily neutral… normalising the rhetoric..
Nearby_Potato4001 on
Well, we are sending non lethal military equipment to Ukraine, so yeah.
InfectedAztec on
Sinn Fein are Ireland’s pro russia party.
You can just look at their MEP records abstaining from votes a month ago on Ukrainian funding or condemning the Iranian government.
HistoryDoesUnfold on
No one agrees what our “neutrality” means.
MM’s position is consistent that it simply means we’re “not in NATO (or anything like that)”. (Edit: consistent in recent years only; he said the Triple Lock was at the “core” of our neutrality in 2013).
That’s not what “neutrality” means to a lot of people, but there’s never actually been an amendment/law/act that makes us “neutral”.
It’s always just been a nebulous description of how Ireland works on the world stage.
5x0uf5o on
Sinn Fein are disgraceful on Ukraine
fr-fluffybottom on
get the spud guns on the ready lads
OrneryCows on
She’s right, let NATO clean up its own mess.
We should have no involvement.
AUX4 on
Haven’t we military being supporting the Lebanon for years?
We’ve also worked with the military in Kosovo and Mali.
Taodaching on
Get him. “Some people get shocked [you overly emotional, neurotic,ill informed & ignorant little individual] but I don’t [see how calm and level headed I am gaslighting your valid and insightful, legitmate concern, you poor shocked woman]” Get. Him. And make them define it Explicitly.
Gaffer_Gamgee on
Prick
The_Cruncher88 on
The fishing boats are en route.
hmmm_ on
We have never been “neutral” about anything, and rightly so. Not part of any military alliances, yes, but neutral, no. I’m with MM on this.
GiveMeAllTheRadishes on
His body language is atrocious. Folded under a miligram of pressure.
Art_Questioner on
I wonder, how long those neutrality pledges would stand if we got attacked?
Aggressive_Leek_5537 on
Not good
Nefilim777 on
US Military planes refuel in Shannon. We’re not remotely neutral.
Garibon on
When you aren’t strong enough to defend yourself you’re not neutral. Same way you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless. We’ve a mentality in Ireland that if the bombs fall they won’t fall on us because we’ve no real threats to anyone here. I’ve a feeling those data centers and the ports and airports might become targets anyway though when they’re being used for cyber warfare and to refuel American war planes. Switzerland is neutral. Irelands is docile.
NotAnotherOne2024 on
Hardly a gotcha moment, it’s been well documented that we’ve supported Ukraine militarily…
So how much extra tax are you willing to pay for military equipment? Maybe your more the type to cut social benefits, school, housing etc. war is expensive.
YetAnotherPesant on
You are just an economic zone of a financial empire fellas, and subservient to it. If they say jump you jump, if they say go to war you’ll go to war. Is that simple!
Larrydog on
“Will all on board this Yankee station,
prepare themselves for battle stations”
SoloWingPixy88 on
Why dont the opposition get that our policy allows us to be flexible.
Shes playing a game of semantics and needs to move on.
Shot-Advertising-316 on
The EU is arming up, it’s strategically better not to have a resource like Ireland being neutral, we’ll likely see more and more of these language changes over the next few years.
Don’t worry though, RTE will find a way to blame Donald Trump so we can all feel good about it 🙂
Just because you’ve head cannoned your own definition doesn’t change reality. Ireland is not neutral and never has been.
OldBorktonian on
Triple lock includes acting on a UN mandate or whatever it’s called. No UN decision to send peacekeeping troops can be made in the Ukraine because Russia will veto. Pretty simple.
Lorwyn02 on
Has someone told her about Shannon yet? lol
the_sneaky_one123 on
This government is determined to end Irish neutrality and are making steps towards it every day. I can see two top reasons.
1) To cosy up to Europe and NATO, securing good jobs for themselves later in life
2) To funnel Irish tax money into defence contracts. Massive lucrative for a lot of people and certainly some brown envelopes have been exchanged.
This is NOT in the interests of Irish people and neutrality is still supported by most Irish people. We need to stop being so fucking lazy and complacent and actually start calling out the government on this bullshit.
NiceHotel271 on
He has family members who fought in the british army, what more do you need to know.
Alwaysname on
Look lads. The world is going to shite. We can’t sit on a fence when our mates are being shat on and then expect to have an equal and fair say around the economic table. Time to realise that things are changing and we may not necessarily like it.
thetearinreality on
People in thus country need to grow up and realise in these days we cannot afford to be ‘neutral’.
Galacticmetrics on
While Ireland upholds military neutrality and lacks full independent defense capacity, its strategic location amid NATO members (notably the UK) ensures that aggression against it would endanger allied interests, likely drawing a protective response.
spairni on
The government saying we’re militarily committed is like a toddler ‘helping’ it’s parents.
Even if we were giving aid (which isn’t the case as there is limitations on what we can give) it’d be the political equivalent of thoughts and prayers because we’re just too small to make a differenceÂ
saggynaggy123 on
Just put neutrality to a referendum and end this shite once and for all.
I don’t want to join NATO but I support upgrading our defence forces.
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I meant it at the time but reserve the right to flip flop and change position later
so we’ll be standing “militarily” with Iran, illegally attacked by Israel-USA?
basically chipping away at the status quo that Ireland is militarily neutral… normalising the rhetoric..
Well, we are sending non lethal military equipment to Ukraine, so yeah.
Sinn Fein are Ireland’s pro russia party.
You can just look at their MEP records abstaining from votes a month ago on Ukrainian funding or condemning the Iranian government.
No one agrees what our “neutrality” means.
MM’s position is consistent that it simply means we’re “not in NATO (or anything like that)”. (Edit: consistent in recent years only; he said the Triple Lock was at the “core” of our neutrality in 2013).
That’s not what “neutrality” means to a lot of people, but there’s never actually been an amendment/law/act that makes us “neutral”.
It’s always just been a nebulous description of how Ireland works on the world stage.
Sinn Fein are disgraceful on Ukraine
get the spud guns on the ready lads
She’s right, let NATO clean up its own mess.
We should have no involvement.
Haven’t we military being supporting the Lebanon for years?
We’ve also worked with the military in Kosovo and Mali.
Get him. “Some people get shocked [you overly emotional, neurotic,ill informed & ignorant little individual] but I don’t [see how calm and level headed I am gaslighting your valid and insightful, legitmate concern, you poor shocked woman]” Get. Him. And make them define it Explicitly.
Prick
The fishing boats are en route.
We have never been “neutral” about anything, and rightly so. Not part of any military alliances, yes, but neutral, no. I’m with MM on this.
His body language is atrocious. Folded under a miligram of pressure.
I wonder, how long those neutrality pledges would stand if we got attacked?
Not good
US Military planes refuel in Shannon. We’re not remotely neutral.
When you aren’t strong enough to defend yourself you’re not neutral. Same way you’re not peaceful. You’re harmless. We’ve a mentality in Ireland that if the bombs fall they won’t fall on us because we’ve no real threats to anyone here. I’ve a feeling those data centers and the ports and airports might become targets anyway though when they’re being used for cyber warfare and to refuel American war planes. Switzerland is neutral. Irelands is docile.
Hardly a gotcha moment, it’s been well documented that we’ve supported Ukraine militarily…
https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0918/1534069-defence-forces/
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/09/20/government-quietly-donates-air-defence-systems-to-ukraine/
So how much extra tax are you willing to pay for military equipment? Maybe your more the type to cut social benefits, school, housing etc. war is expensive.
You are just an economic zone of a financial empire fellas, and subservient to it. If they say jump you jump, if they say go to war you’ll go to war. Is that simple!
“Will all on board this Yankee station,
prepare themselves for battle stations”
Why dont the opposition get that our policy allows us to be flexible.
Shes playing a game of semantics and needs to move on.
The EU is arming up, it’s strategically better not to have a resource like Ireland being neutral, we’ll likely see more and more of these language changes over the next few years.
Don’t worry though, RTE will find a way to blame Donald Trump so we can all feel good about it 🙂
Lads lads lads
How are people surprised by this? Ireland position has been, for a very long time, that military neutrality is not joining a defensive/military alliance. It’s clearly stated here: https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/role-policies/international-priorities/peace-and-security/neutrality/
Just because you’ve head cannoned your own definition doesn’t change reality. Ireland is not neutral and never has been.
Triple lock includes acting on a UN mandate or whatever it’s called. No UN decision to send peacekeeping troops can be made in the Ukraine because Russia will veto. Pretty simple.
Has someone told her about Shannon yet? lol
This government is determined to end Irish neutrality and are making steps towards it every day. I can see two top reasons.
1) To cosy up to Europe and NATO, securing good jobs for themselves later in life
2) To funnel Irish tax money into defence contracts. Massive lucrative for a lot of people and certainly some brown envelopes have been exchanged.
This is NOT in the interests of Irish people and neutrality is still supported by most Irish people. We need to stop being so fucking lazy and complacent and actually start calling out the government on this bullshit.
He has family members who fought in the british army, what more do you need to know.
Look lads. The world is going to shite. We can’t sit on a fence when our mates are being shat on and then expect to have an equal and fair say around the economic table. Time to realise that things are changing and we may not necessarily like it.
People in thus country need to grow up and realise in these days we cannot afford to be ‘neutral’.
While Ireland upholds military neutrality and lacks full independent defense capacity, its strategic location amid NATO members (notably the UK) ensures that aggression against it would endanger allied interests, likely drawing a protective response.
The government saying we’re militarily committed is like a toddler ‘helping’ it’s parents.
Even if we were giving aid (which isn’t the case as there is limitations on what we can give) it’d be the political equivalent of thoughts and prayers because we’re just too small to make a differenceÂ
Just put neutrality to a referendum and end this shite once and for all.
I don’t want to join NATO but I support upgrading our defence forces.