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  1. LullaAbbie on

    **Source:** https://casier-politique.fr/

    **How to read it**: Far-left MPs are positioned at the very left of the hemicycle, it goes gradually to the traditional left, then centrists, traditional right and finally far-right wingers to the very right.

    **The bubbles** “1 an, 3 ans, 5 ans” represent the lengths of sentences (1, 3, 5 years).

    **Colours**, from the left to the right:

    – Purple (LFI): “Radical” left
    – Red (PC): French Communist Party
    – Pink (PS): Traditional center-left (Socialists)
    – Green (EELV): Main environmentalist party
    – Light blue (RE): Macron’s centrist party
    – Orange (UDF): Traditional centrist parties
    – Dark blue (LR): Traditional conservatives
    – Brown (RN): Far-right nationalist party (Le Pen)
    – Black (R!): Reconquête!, hardline far-right

  2. I am ashamed to ask this but how does one read this chart? I don’t get the symmetrical years, why there are bubbles between 1990 and 1990 and what it shows in general.

  3. Someone make a map of Italian politicians, we win hands down in this kind of competition

  4. insomnimax_99 on

    What’s the 1 year/3 years/5 years thing?

    Is that length of prison sentence?

    If so how are criminal convictions that didn’t result in a prison sentence (like a fine or community service) handled?

    How are people who committed multiple crimes handled?

  5. hikealot on

    Dear OP. What kind of chart is this and how do you read it?

    The bubble sizes appear to be length of sentence? Is this so? So, severity of crime I guess?

    The dates seem to radiate out from the center, except that the left side (the 9 O’clock position) radiates backward from 1980 and the right side (the 3 O’clock position) radiates forward from 1990. So what about the 12 O’clock position.

    The color coding is by party.

  6. With representativeness from political parties, it would be better 🙂

  7. Explanation:

    The author used LLM to filter and sum up wikipedia, to get a list of judgements against french politicians.

    It is placed on a left-right political spectrum like in our parlement, but all dates are mixed up. The blue and pink used to be very big parties in the past but not anymore. Orange disapeared completly. Purple, light-blue and black are new parties existing since only about 10 years or less. Macron’s party is light-blue.

    The size of the buble is how big the sentence was. If a person is sentenced multiples times in multiple cases, it creates multiple bubbles.

    Imperfections: some data was missing, which is expected because this is just an AI collecting data from wikipedia. This is mixing up all kinds of politicians, elected in all kinds of positions. the author seems to add new bubbles with time, probably because people are giving him new information now that his site is becoming popular. The author is known to be left leaning.

  8. _hockenberry on

    Right wing guys on the right of the picture, leftists on the left. As you sadly can see, you can be a politician in France while being a criminal.

  9. Nervous-Candidate135 on

    Manipulated data, so many cases on the far-left are not counted “for some reason”, and I don’t even want to start with timeline or representativity issues (some figures on the right have never been MPs or senators). Raphaël Jolivet is an activist.

  10. XenthorX on

    This chart is of course a piece of propaganda trying to dumb down discussion such as “size of circle” shall be interpreted as gravity which is absolutely not the case.

    For instance yesterday on the news we had someone who took 3 years sentence for killing 3 people while drunk driving: is it better or worth than those 5 years sentences ?

    Also it’s not a current politic snapshot, it’s tying together political figure from the last 35 years.
    Most circle represents people that have been removed/kicked from their respective parties, or attributed to parties for fact that happened when they were part of other parties. A lot of the circle represent persons not currently working as deputee anymore, and yet some of those circles represent current deputees.

    So it’s highly beneficial to younger political formations like LFI.
    Also it’s making some shady political attribution, most condamnation of people attributed to LREM (Macron – centrist) are for fact that happened before they joined the centrist formation (Karl Olive about Poissy city 10 years prior, Mustapha Laabid for facts prior to 2017 when he got invested by LREM) etc etc…

    So it’s more propaganda than anything else.

    “There you go, the sin of the son are the sins of the fathers, look at those bad people”
    It’s so lame and missleading.

    We’re gonna flag Germany Bundestag as all a bunch of Nazis? Where does relevant history starts? who decides?…

  11. But LFI is a violent radical party! I was told they are as much of a problem as the far right!

  12. Possible-Wallaby-877 on

    Wait how are you able to run for office if you have a criminal record? Is that allowed in France? That’s surprising, unless many countries don’t have those barriers in place?

  13. At least in France these people get convicted, in most other countries they just stay in power

  14. What are those empty spaces? Parties without anyone convicted?

  15. blahajlife on

    “We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they’re elected. Don’t you?”

    “Why?”

    “It saves time.”

    – from The Last Continent, Sir Terry Pratchett

  16. I’ve looked at this….thing…for a solid minute, i i still can’t make up anything useful, i can’t compare anything, i don’t understand why is there a big gap on the left, i dont know if years are cumulated, and if they include “sursis”, and if a bubble is a period or a single people, i dont have useful numbers, the x axis is a joke ….

    Good idea, terrible execution

  17. Empty_Recording_3458 on

    I don’t believe this graph for a second, sorry. Just this week a far left (LFI) MP was condemned for diffamation. I can guarantee you there must be some heavy massaging of the data and you can easily guess who did it.

    Edit: conveniently OP is not letting anyone see their post status, you know exactly why.

  18. Rare-Victory on

    How is it scaled to the size of the political parties ?
    I would be better to know e.g. how many percent of politicians belonging party x between e.g. 2000 to 2005 have since been convicted to sentences of 1,3,5 years.

  19. Background_Wedding44 on

    La méthodologie est catastrophique et favorise à 100% les partis les plus jeunes. Je m’explique :

    Si je prends (sur le site) en filtrant les années 2020 à 2027 et sur le RN, toutes les affaires de JMLP apparaissent alors que ça faisait longtemps qu’il n’était plus député. en gros plus un parti a une longue histoire et plus il a eu de députés dans le temps plus il va apparaître fortement parce qu’ils comptent tous les anciens députés, donc un parti comme LR qui n’a q’une centaine de députés actuellement, en a eu plusieurs milliers dans le passé et donc à chaque fois qu’un ancien député est condamné il apparaît. à l’inverse, un parti comme LFI est très récent et donc a eu moins de parlementaires avec des carrières moins longue, donc mathématiquement ils sont moins représentés.

  20. SoftSkinTurtle on

    It’s it me or is this graph leaning heavily to the right…

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