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    “La gente mette le chiavi delle auto e fa uscire l’aria dai pneumatici”: la guerra per i parcheggi nei nuovi insediamenti

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    1. TheChrisD on

      Seven Mills? Literally flanked by Kishoge and Clondalkin stations? And also flanked by the W2 and W4?

      And Shanangah Castle literally has the E1 outside their door, with Woodbrook station a short walk away.

      Such notions…

    2. its_brew on

      Fortunate to have got a house with a driveway fit for 2 cars in our estate.

      But houses in phase 2 and 3 went for 40/50k more and dont even have a driveway, with onstreet assigned parking being the norm.

      Cars are all over the place , saw two neighbours arguing the other day abojt it.

    3. hippocastanum on

      Four car parking spaces in plan size equals the ground floor plan area of a typical domestic house in housing developments like these. So what do we want or need more – more houses or more car parking spaces? There’s reasons why the local authority’s development plans call for less car parking spaces, and this is one of the main ones.

    4. SeanB2003 on

      Need to adopt the approach of the Japanese – proof of a place to park the car required before purchasing it.

    5. VanillaCommercial394 on

      The bottom line rules .

      You are not getting a garden because the builder wants to maximise profit and the government are on their side .

      Capitalism is going to eventually eat itself .

    6. Fornici0 on

      If only all that energy was spent in fighting for public transport.

    7. Margrave75 on

      My wife worked in a montessori a few years back.

      Was at the back of a housing estate with set down/pick up area for about three or four cars.

      Houses in the estate were about 50/50 onwer occupied and rented, so every house with AT least two cars, and every house with driveway space for one, unless the owner paved the grass patch.

      No other on street parking.

      Imagine what that place was like every morning/afternoon, and then imagine what it was like on bin collection morning!

      Absolutely DISASTROUS planning.

    8. MF-Geuze on

      “Ó Broin argued that these different parking arrangements for social or cost-rental tenants versus private homeowners are inequitable and unacceptable”

      Of course EOB thinks it’s everyone’s fault, except for the people stealing the parking spaces.

      Imagine dropping  half a mill on a new build, paying for a parking space, and then someone whose rent you are subsidising, along with paying your own mortgage, comes along and steals your parking space

    9. Tony_Meatballs_00 on

      Motorists must account for a significant amount of crime nationally

    10. Melodic-Chocolate-53 on

      When car-free ideology rubs against reality.

      Probably get downvoted by no-car bicycle lovers living with their parents.

    11. Different-Class1771 on

      Same thing is happening in our estate built in the 1970s.

      Theres space for one car on the driveway but most houses have 2, 3 or sometimes 4 cars because of adult children living at home or people house sharing.

      They can shift the blame to developers all they want but people are driving because of non existent public transport and living at home / house sharing in their 30s/40s because of a housing crisis.

    12. Ob1s_dark_side on

      My estate is full of people with driveways that don’t use them.

    13. Ok_Pin92 on

      Stories like these put me off buying new.

      I’d rather buy something a bit more rural with some land around it to avoid ppl.

    14. NotAnotherOne2024 on

      This is government policy at work, not price gouging by developers like so many misguided people blindly believe, LRDs have to be designed to adhere to national and local planning policies.

      “In order to meet the targets set out in the National Sustainable Mobility Policy 2022 and in the Climate Action Plan 2023 for reduced private car travel it will be necessary to apply a graduated approach to the management of car parking within new residential development.”

      Page 57: https://assets.gov.ie/static/documents/2cd4f729-sustainable-residential-development-and-compact-settlements-guidelines-for-pl.pdf

    15. slevinonion on

      DMURS, the design manual for roads means you have to have really narrow streets in housing estates. I’ve seen some planning get rejected because the roads were too wide.

      It’s ridiculous. Nobody has anywhere to park. Emergency services are frequently blocked from accessing the emergency. It’s more dangerous for kids playing. It was an idiotic decision. Every house needs 2 parking spaces. No point hoping everyone will magic their second car away somewhere every night.

    16. miseconor on

      It really is a terribly short sighted policy. A lot of these places can’t install electric car charging points either

    17. Didyouseethebubble87 on

      500k for a 2 bed shoe box and you cant even park a car lol. Glad my estate was built in 98.

    19. eiretaco on

      How are these people outside dublin a lot of them, supposed to switch to EVs?

      What happens when their kids grow up and have to drive themselves?
      Shit show

    20. Imperial_Tiramisu on

      This isn’t limited to new builds tho. It’s actually a lot worse in old estates where the children are now adults living with their parents and a household has four cars instead of two.

      At least with new estates, it’s all mostly young couples with infants. My parents estate is a fucking nightmare.

    21. Uncle_Richard98 on

      The lack of infrastructure planning vision in this country is astonishing. Like how can’t they do something so basic that is so normal in the rest of Europe and the western world? How can they be this stupid?

    22. Final_Tradition_3439 on

      The people running the country are so detached from day to day life it is frightening. The lack of cop on and common sense is unreal.

      We are a very sparesely populated country with a wet climate. Like it or not, you are not going to have public transport suitable for everyone in a country this sparsely populated. It’s not financially viable to connect every small town to each other.

      To get from Portmarnock to Sandyford (17km) takes 1hr 50 minutes on public transport. That’s with Dublin level of public transport (Trains, buses and Luas). What hope does the rest of the country have?

      The car is here to stay. Someone in government with some balls has to come out and say it. We need to stop making life difficult for everyday people

    23. Inevitable-Solid1892 on

      My estate has driveways with two spaces but more and more houses have more than two cars now as their kids get older and can’t move out. Common story across the country I am sure

      There is a couple of visitor spaces at the end of our cul de sac and the residents that live next to them will actually come out and challenge anyone that uses them.

      We have discussed moving to a detached house in the countryside to get away from this nonsense as it is going to get progressively worse rather than better

    24. InevitableSure374 on

      When we were looking to buy we immediately crossed off all houses without a driveway that would fit at least 2 cars. Even though we only had one car at the moment. We have visitors who have cars and we lived in an estate without enough parking spaces before and that was a nightmare experience. Really feel for these people.

    25. Otherwise-Winner9643 on

      :McEvoy and her partner paid extra to get what was sold to them as “exclusive” use of two parking spaces – but due to what she described as a poor parking management system and a shortage of spaces, they often come home to find their spots have been taken by other residents whose properties did not come with designated parking.”

      That would drive me up the wall (excuse the pun). If it was me, I would install one of those lockable parking bollards. The management company should just agree on a style everyone is allowed to install if they so choose.

      Something like this https://www.pittman.ie/products/removable-steel-post or this https://eur.vevor.com/parking-lock-c_11507/vevor-car-parking-lock-20m-remote-control-car-park-driveway-guard-space-saver-p_010810589056

    26. AK8- on

      I don’t think I’ve ever lived anywhere in Dublin that had sufficient parking in the area.

    27. DrZaiu5 on

      We were looking for our first house recently, and luckily we found a grand place with a driveway. But half the new builds out there had no driveway at all. Imagine paying upwards or 500k for a house and you don’t even get a driveway. Some places have allocated spaces, but they’re not even in front of the house.

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