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  1. bars_and_plates on

    It’s shrinkflation applied to a rail line!

    I can’t be the only person who thinks this sort of thing is completely pointless. Either give me the full fat cocoa chocolate bar for a bit more money, or I’ll do without.

  2. Cyanopicacooki on

    If they run slower than planned, then the lines didn’t need to be so extreme, so could have been built quicker and cheaper…

  3. AllThatIHaveDone on

    The national equivalent of turning off your mobile phone to save the battery.

  4. TheWorldIsGoingMad on

    Good idea, there is no requirement for trains in a relatively small country to run at 225mph. 200mph, or even 185mph would be fine. HS2 is as much about creating extra capacity on the rail system as saving 10 or 20 minutes here or there.
    In fact if they’d been more sensible about the whole thing they could possibly have built all the branches as originally planned….

  5. Plus-Literature-7221 on

    > HS2’s chief executive Mark Wild was expected to say this month the line would not be completed until after the current 2033 deadline and it would cost over £100bn in today’s prices

    So something like x10 more expensive per km than some European countries and China managed.

    Maybe the government should look into why costs have exploded, and the cause of delays instead of making hs2 worse.

  6. WickerSnicker7 on

    This project is a colossal white elephant and everyone knows it.

  7. M_M_X_X_V on

    “Save money” for what exactly?

    We just had a decade of harsh austerity that killed more Britons than COVID and the Blitz combined, all in the name of saving money. Why not use all the money saved from that?

    Why is it that when China wants to build big stuff, they just do it with none of these man made setbacks and hurdles?

  8. ExoneratedPhoenix on

    High Speed trains to be slowed to normal train speed to save money, after hundreds of billions spent building a High Speed Network system.

    Jesus Christ. I know things are complicated and stuff happens in projects. I am not expecting perfection.
    But this is levels of incompetency seen only in satire films/shows.

  9. BusyBeeBridgette on

    Then what is the f—- point of them if they have to go slower?

  10. Lost-Droids on

    So the problem is that they now say that the trains cant be tested at their proposed speed until after a new test track has been created because existing test tracks arent quick enough to certify the trains..

    If we dont build this new test track they can run at slower speeds and it will save billion s on cost..

    Surely this was clear from Day 1..

    Also can the segments of HS2 line that has already been completed not be used as a test track?

  11. Impressive-Bird-6085 on

    What’s the bloody point of HS2 now? It’s becoming more and more a shadow of its original spec…. And costing the taxpayer a fortune to boot!

  12. smokesletsgo13 on

    China and Japan are covered in high speed trains… we can’t build a single one? Why are we so hopeless

  13. uagotapo on

    Honestly just build the thing properly. Yes it’s costing far more than it should, and that needs to be investigated and the procurement process completely overhauled. But in 10 years no one will care how much it cost. See Crossrail, all anyone talks about now is how great it is, not how much it cost. Also the Tokaido Shinkansen in Japan, that went 2 times over budget, but again, no one cares now.

    These projects are capital infrastructure, which will last centuries. But if we kneecap the project to save a bit of money in the short term we will be noticing and living with that for the centuries that the line will exist for.

  14. China builds HS2 for £5billion and we can’t even do that for £100bill… What a colossal waste of money.

  15. The headline is standard clickbait

    The trains would run at full speed, just not immediately

    The idea is to save money by not taking trains to China (which has a suitable test track) before HS2 opens, in order to test them and be able to run at full speed on day 1. That would be expensive

    Instead they’d be tested to a lower speed and operate at that initially, before doing some testing here in the UK (on HS2 itself once it’s open) and increasing the service speed over time

    It seems pretty sensible

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