I don’t support the resident doctors’ positioning either, but I struggle to believe Wes’s is because of the Iran war. The dispute began well before it…
an0mn0mn0m on
Is he paying them all our of his personal fuel budget?
RecentTwo544 on
Junior doctors are doing themselves a disservice by striking over pay. The offer is decent enough, and I’m right behind the removal of exam fees (should never have been a thing in the first place).
Unless I’ve got this wrong, basic year one pay is £39k, then £44.5k for year two, then £52.6, then £65k. Then the huge potential earnings down the line once you’re out of junior ranks. I assume that’s before the proposed offer the government are making that doctors are rejecting.
That doesn’t seem unreasonable in terms of pay in a country with a public healthcare system.
What doctors should be protesting about is the insane working conditions, hours, and there not being enough of them.
Hiring more doctors would still be a cost to the treasury, but it would be a much better sell to taxpayers and garner much more public support.
Tricky_Coffee_1059 on
Bit sensationalist as usual from the Telegraph. What he actually said makes more sense:
“However, we are planning on the basis of a prolonged conflict because that is the prudent thing to do. In that eventuality, there would be an impact on the economy and on the public finances. Were that to happen, a future offer to resident doctors will not look better than what is on offer today.”
Financial resources may have to be directed towards the conflict leaving less money for other areas which as a result, will mean less in the pot for doctors.
Please read articles instead of getting worked up about headlines. Like him or not, what he said is based in some reality. Obviously there will be more nuance to it.
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GooseyDuckDuck on
Resident doctors can’t keep coming back each year looking for above inflation pay rises, all empathy with them is now gone.
jodrellbank_pants on
Pay me, points to hand repeatedly, don’t give a monkeys about your war that’s nothing to do with me.
White_Immigrant on
The excuses start. If the war is already costing us that much then we should be starting to charge the USA when they want to use our bases to make up the shortfall, and charge extra taxes on US and Israeli companies to cover the costs.
Hollywood-is-DOA on
In no other field, would you be able to go on strike, bar train drivers and get your pay increase. Doctors do this one every other year. Do they expect pay increases, each and every time?
I’ve heard of nurses being forced to take pay cuts of loose their jobs! A whole ward refused to change banding for less money, so it didn’t happen.
Definitely_Human01 on
MPs got an above inflation pay rise this year.
If the government wants to convince other public sector employees to accept a loss in real pay, the least they could do is lead by example and not accept any pay rises themselves.
Otherwise it’s just another case of do as I say, not as I do.
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I don’t support the resident doctors’ positioning either, but I struggle to believe Wes’s is because of the Iran war. The dispute began well before it…
Is he paying them all our of his personal fuel budget?
Junior doctors are doing themselves a disservice by striking over pay. The offer is decent enough, and I’m right behind the removal of exam fees (should never have been a thing in the first place).
Unless I’ve got this wrong, basic year one pay is £39k, then £44.5k for year two, then £52.6, then £65k. Then the huge potential earnings down the line once you’re out of junior ranks. I assume that’s before the proposed offer the government are making that doctors are rejecting.
That doesn’t seem unreasonable in terms of pay in a country with a public healthcare system.
What doctors should be protesting about is the insane working conditions, hours, and there not being enough of them.
Hiring more doctors would still be a cost to the treasury, but it would be a much better sell to taxpayers and garner much more public support.
Bit sensationalist as usual from the Telegraph. What he actually said makes more sense:
“However, we are planning on the basis of a prolonged conflict because that is the prudent thing to do. In that eventuality, there would be an impact on the economy and on the public finances. Were that to happen, a future offer to resident doctors will not look better than what is on offer today.”
Financial resources may have to be directed towards the conflict leaving less money for other areas which as a result, will mean less in the pot for doctors.
Please read articles instead of getting worked up about headlines. Like him or not, what he said is based in some reality. Obviously there will be more nuance to it.
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Resident doctors can’t keep coming back each year looking for above inflation pay rises, all empathy with them is now gone.
Pay me, points to hand repeatedly, don’t give a monkeys about your war that’s nothing to do with me.
The excuses start. If the war is already costing us that much then we should be starting to charge the USA when they want to use our bases to make up the shortfall, and charge extra taxes on US and Israeli companies to cover the costs.
In no other field, would you be able to go on strike, bar train drivers and get your pay increase. Doctors do this one every other year. Do they expect pay increases, each and every time?
I’ve heard of nurses being forced to take pay cuts of loose their jobs! A whole ward refused to change banding for less money, so it didn’t happen.
MPs got an above inflation pay rise this year.
If the government wants to convince other public sector employees to accept a loss in real pay, the least they could do is lead by example and not accept any pay rises themselves.
Otherwise it’s just another case of do as I say, not as I do.