Buongiorno. Recentemente ho visto che l’Estonia e la Repubblica Ceca sono considerati i paesi più atei del mondo. La Repubblica Ceca è leggermente più atea dell’Estonia.
Tuttavia, la mia domanda è più focalizzata sul cristianesimo. Perché è così basso?
La cifra più bassa che ho trovato per il numero dei cristiani nella Repubblica Ceca è dell’11,7%. La cifra più bassa che ho trovato per il numero dei cristiani nella Repubblica Ceca è dell’11,7%.
La maggioranza era cattolica (9,3%) e una piccola minoranza protestante (2,4%).
I miei dubbi risiedono nel fatto che nel caso della Repubblica Ceca hanno semplicemente abbandonato il cristianesimo tradizionale invece di inserirsi in esso.
Almeno nel contesto da cui provengo, è più comune che qualcuno cambi denominazione piuttosto che abbandonare il cristianesimo.
E il secondo dubbio. Se ho ragione, in diverse pagine in ceco che ho visto si afferma che l’ateismo nella Repubblica Ceca in realtà si riferisce solo alla miscredenza nel Dio della Chiesa, cioè nei cristiani. O di Abramo.
E così è sorta un’altra domanda. Se qualcuno ti chiedesse se credi in Dio. Ma non si riferisce a lui dal teismo classico o abramitico. In quale classificazione sarebbe?
Panteismo
Panenteismo
deismo
Ci fermeremo
O qualche altro termine.
Mi scuso in anticipo per la traduzione, non capisco il ceco e utilizzo il traduttore di Google. Spero che funzioni bene. Ho eliminato e ricaricato le mie domande per tradurle.
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This comes from government census which was mandatory, but people were annoyed and consider religion to be a private matter so they refused to declare in the census and many people tried to troll it with Jedi.
Vast majority of Czechs are atheists.
*About seven-in-ten Czechs (72%) do not identify with a religious group, including 46% who describe their religion as “nothing in particular” and an additional 25% who say “atheist” describes their religious identity. When it comes to religious belief — as opposed to religious identity — 66% of Czechs say they do not believe in God, compared with just 29% who do.*
[https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/06/19/unlike-their-central-and-eastern-european-neighbors-most-czechs-dont-believe-in-god/](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/06/19/unlike-their-central-and-eastern-european-neighbors-most-czechs-dont-believe-in-god/)
Short answer is socialism and russian influence. If you are interested in that, summary on Communist-Religion relations on Wikipedia would be more helpful than me, so I’ll just say this and move to other point of ur post.
Most people in Czechia do not even consider other religions than Christianity – therefore if someone tells you they are atheist, they mean they do not believe in “one-christian God”. However a lot of people I know would also add, that “They believe in something more – something that exists between Heaven and Earth.”
That may not be exact God per se (therefore they would desribe themselves as atheists), but just something unnatural.
As a result of that, you find quite strong “ezotheric” communities and such all around.
Personaly, I know only one single christian family from my hometown of approx. 4000 people.
There are several layers to your question. First, Christianity came to be seen by many as an outdated concept associated with the Austro-Hungarian monarchy. During the era of the First Republic, especially in urban areas, a significant number of people moved toward indifference to religion.
After World War II and the communist coup, Christianity was persecuted quite severely. Convents were closed, clergy were imprisoned, and religious institutions were heavily restricted. Many people viewed this negatively, particularly those in rural areas, but since the relationship with the Church had already been weakening, what remained after the monarchy and the First Republic was further marginalized under communism to the point of near obscurity.
Today, there are still regions that remain relatively religious, such as Slovácko and Valašsko. However, the majority of the country is largely secular. I personally know very few practicing Christians. That said, many people still attend church during Christmas or Easter, myself included occasionally, not out of strong religious conviction but as part of cultural tradition.
I believe you can share your question in English if that is more convenient for you.
I don’t know exact answer to your question, but from what I experienced, people here are really cynical, which doesn’t coexist well with a religion of any kind.
Also for many centuries we were under rule of Habsburgs and forced to follow catholic church. Religion was always big in Austria-Hungary. So in sake of being more modern than the obsolete Empire, Czechs wanted to throw away everything tied to the monarchy, religion included. So Communism later just finished this trend.
Today not only people here are non-believers, they really hate idea of religion. My wife’s family is really proud of being really educated and “smart enough not to be religious”.
That is definitely not a full picture. Also I am from Silesia and our experience differs from Bohemia for example. But this is how I see it.
Writing this in English do it is more natural for a translator to translate into your language.
Souvisí to s českou historií kdy v zásadě všechny velké dějinné posuny diskreditovaly církev: husitské války skončí kompromisem kvůli neúnosně špatné situaci, třicetiletá válka skončí brutální a násilnou rekatolizací, katolická církev se za první světové války diskredituje úzkým sepětím s Habsburky a i válečným úsilím, prvorepublikové husitství už je takové spíše performativní a pak přijdou komunisté kteří ateismus legitimují a docela šikovně intelektuálně prosadí a podpoří ve společnosti, která už důkladně zjistila že náboženskou víru fakt k ničemu nepotřebuje.
hlasujem za [apatheism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatheism)
“It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God.”
Czechs will say that’s because of communism but that’s not true (Look at Russia, Poland, Romania, etc.). The reason started with the Protestant reformation, the Czech lands became Protestant, first Hussites then Lutherans, and then the White mountain battle happened and the Habsburg colonized these lands and suppressed Protestantism and Czech language. So from there onwards, Czechs have been not that religious. Check the stats of religion in 1921 census and you will start to see a trend.
Dle mého hodně lidí vyznává křesťanské tradice a občas i hody, ale i tak se nazývají ateisty.
Osobně to takhle mám v celé rodině. Nechodíme do kostela, ale Vánoce slavíme poměrně dost tradičně křesťansky.
Velikonece taky slavíme, ačkoliv už trošku spíš tím americkým způsobem kdy děti hledají vajíčka. (A mrskáme u toho ženy klackem)
Osobně mi to přijde jako takové spíš slavení národních svátků?
Nevím třeba mě někdo chytřejší v komentářích dokáže opravit proč zrovna slavíme křesťanské svátky, ale nazíváme se ateisty a kde vlastně je ta čára kdy někdo ateista je a kdy je jenom křesťan co nevěří v boha a nechodí do kostela.
I recommend works of prof. Zdeněk Nešpor, who studied and wrote about czech people leaving catholic church after world war 2. He can point you to other authors.
there was a similar question in r/AskTheWorld a few days ago, so i’ll just copy my answer from there
“in short: hussites, forced recatholisation from 1620, communism
longer answer: in early 15th century there was a guy called Jan Hus preaching about the corruption of the church, people really liked him and he had a huge following. He was then burned at stake by the church and people really didn’t take that well, so his followers started destroying churches and monasteries. The Catholic Church launched 5 unsuccessful crusades against them, which further deepened the hatred for catholicism. Fast forward 200 years later, in 1618 the Bohemian Estates revolted against the Habsburg rule (and started the Thirty Years War, but that is a different story), in 1620 during the battle of White Mountain near Prague the estates were fully defeated by the Habsburg forces and the Habsburgs started forced recatholization of the Bohemian people. After the fall of Austria-Hungary in 1918, many Czechs (Slovaks were still pretty religious) abandoned the church. After the communist coup in 1948, the new regime suppressed all faiths, promoted atheism and going to church was looked down upon. Christianity never fully recovered from this and only 9% of people identify as Catholics now (and about 2% as Orthodox).”
Kámo, napiš to anglicky. Není ti rozumět. Vliv úpadku křesťanství v Česku byl způsoben třemi vlivy. Husitské války a pobělohorská rekatolizace, výsadní postavení katolické církve v Habsburské monarchii (církev byla v mnohém nepřítel revolučního národního hnutí) a nakonec komunismus. Úplně jiný vývoj mělo Polsko, kde církev sjednocovala a byla symbolem boje proti režimu. U nás to bylo spíš naopak.