With the growth of Sverigedemokraterna they will at some point not have a choice.
This is the way of democracy. If someone gets a lot of seats, eventually they will get to hold more direct power.
Beyond_the_one on
Centrists ready to throw in with (neo)-Nazis just to win. Shows you how much centrists care about democracy. Go see how well that has worked in Finland, highest unemployment in the EU and growing inequality.
Erzkuake on
This is exactly what happened in Germany ffs.
And this will happen in other countries too.
Right wing flirting with extreme right is how authoritarian states are created. This book explains it perfectly
Regardless of what we think of the SDs, this is a very risky political move for a center-right party to say: ” If you vote for us, we will bring in the far-right” This is very likely to discourage center right voters from voting for them because if those voters wanted the far right in government they would just vote for the far right.
Negative_Baker_2141 on
Wild how “cordon sanitaire” keeps quietly dissolving once power is at stake. One small thing people can still do is actually join parties locally and push them to draw firm red lines.
Ok_Parking_1054 on
Voting is for fools, want real results, become a revolutionary and use that to take back your country.
Dazzling-Tough6798 on
Yet more proof that the „centre right“ would rather jump in bed with fascists than reach out across the aisle to left leaning parties. Germany’s going the same way.
Any-Original-6113 on
It very much looks like the experience of Sweden will soon be studied closely by Germany (and France).
For example, the CDU and AfD could already take a controlling stake almost anywhere in the state parliaments, wherever they want.
peet192 on
Just like FRP 13 years ago.
Poems_And_Money on
Can someone explain what the Swedish far right actually means? Like what are their views when compared to far right in for example Germany or Slovakia?
Over-Willingness-933 on
The problem is defining Far Right. Often it is used as a smear by left wing parties. In the UK, Reform is branded this, but they have many non white voters and many non white faces on their team.
toyyya on
The most annoying part is that the Social Democrats refuse to present a real alternative, pushing for mostly centrist policy or straight up the same police as the centre right.
All the while they have to work with the centre party (actually centre right, just refuses to work with the far right in any way) who draw hard lines against working with the “left Party” (previously communist but haven’t been communist for quite a few years now) and demand to keep the disastrous system of for profit friskolor (publicly funded private schools, I think the US calls them school vouchers for example) that multiple studies have shown increase segregation, causd the students to come out less prepared for university but with higher grades than municipality run schools all the while bagging tons of tax money into private pockets of large corporations and their owners.
Edit. I should also add that the Social Democrats were even flirting with wanting to form a government with moderaterna (the traditional right wing party) instead of working with the left Party which shows how little is left of the Social Democrats of old.
Bazzzookah on
That may be a first for Sweden, but in a wider European context, it’s not all that notable. Several countries have had ruling coalitions that have included far-right (or right-wing populist) parties, notably Austria, Hungary and Poland.
IStoneI42 on
can we have a definition of “far right” here?
because the way i understand the far right is a group of ultra nationalists and ethno-centrists (this means not just white people btw.) who call for violence and the extermination of everyone who isnt part of their cultural or ethnic identity group.
im thinking of literal nazis, jihadists, the BLF in south africa and similar extremist groups and their direct supporters.
the term has been misused so many times in the past to people who merely call for harsher immigration regulation that its not even real anymore.
so when you guys say “far right”, what does this even mean in this context?
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With the growth of Sverigedemokraterna they will at some point not have a choice.
This is the way of democracy. If someone gets a lot of seats, eventually they will get to hold more direct power.
Centrists ready to throw in with (neo)-Nazis just to win. Shows you how much centrists care about democracy. Go see how well that has worked in Finland, highest unemployment in the EU and growing inequality.
This is exactly what happened in Germany ffs.
And this will happen in other countries too.
Right wing flirting with extreme right is how authoritarian states are created. This book explains it perfectly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Democracies_Die
Regardless of what we think of the SDs, this is a very risky political move for a center-right party to say: ” If you vote for us, we will bring in the far-right” This is very likely to discourage center right voters from voting for them because if those voters wanted the far right in government they would just vote for the far right.
Wild how “cordon sanitaire” keeps quietly dissolving once power is at stake. One small thing people can still do is actually join parties locally and push them to draw firm red lines.
Voting is for fools, want real results, become a revolutionary and use that to take back your country.
Yet more proof that the „centre right“ would rather jump in bed with fascists than reach out across the aisle to left leaning parties. Germany’s going the same way.
It very much looks like the experience of Sweden will soon be studied closely by Germany (and France).
For example, the CDU and AfD could already take a controlling stake almost anywhere in the state parliaments, wherever they want.
Just like FRP 13 years ago.
Can someone explain what the Swedish far right actually means? Like what are their views when compared to far right in for example Germany or Slovakia?
The problem is defining Far Right. Often it is used as a smear by left wing parties. In the UK, Reform is branded this, but they have many non white voters and many non white faces on their team.
The most annoying part is that the Social Democrats refuse to present a real alternative, pushing for mostly centrist policy or straight up the same police as the centre right.
All the while they have to work with the centre party (actually centre right, just refuses to work with the far right in any way) who draw hard lines against working with the “left Party” (previously communist but haven’t been communist for quite a few years now) and demand to keep the disastrous system of for profit friskolor (publicly funded private schools, I think the US calls them school vouchers for example) that multiple studies have shown increase segregation, causd the students to come out less prepared for university but with higher grades than municipality run schools all the while bagging tons of tax money into private pockets of large corporations and their owners.
Edit. I should also add that the Social Democrats were even flirting with wanting to form a government with moderaterna (the traditional right wing party) instead of working with the left Party which shows how little is left of the Social Democrats of old.
That may be a first for Sweden, but in a wider European context, it’s not all that notable. Several countries have had ruling coalitions that have included far-right (or right-wing populist) parties, notably Austria, Hungary and Poland.
can we have a definition of “far right” here?
because the way i understand the far right is a group of ultra nationalists and ethno-centrists (this means not just white people btw.) who call for violence and the extermination of everyone who isnt part of their cultural or ethnic identity group.
im thinking of literal nazis, jihadists, the BLF in south africa and similar extremist groups and their direct supporters.
the term has been misused so many times in the past to people who merely call for harsher immigration regulation that its not even real anymore.
so when you guys say “far right”, what does this even mean in this context?
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.