Pensions are the biggest benefit in history though.
Red_Laughing_Man on
Thank God, more stupid decisions that look like they’re going to lead to the tanking of the party.
Then we can see where **”other”** really stands.
Important_Ruin on
Nigel Farage has confirmed Reform UK would keep the triple lock for state pensions and will fund it with the “biggest cuts to the benefits bill ever seen in this country”.
The Reform UK leader has previously been sceptical about guaranteeing the triple lock, warning that the current system is “unaffordable on a national level”.
At a press conference in central London, Reform’s Treasury spokesman Robert Jenrick pledged to cut “tens and tens of billions” of pounds of government waste and reset spending to “actually put the British people first”.
“We have already identified £40bn of savings every year”, he added.
The U-turn comes just months after Mr Farage said that his party would not “guarantee anything” to pensioners, saying they would have “to see what the economics of this are like nearer the next election”.
Mr Farage defended the shift, saying: “When I said the jury’s out on the triple lock and what we would decide to do on this… if I could just interpret that into simple English, what I meant was the jury’s out. Not that I’d made my mind up either way.
“And we have discussed it, and we have debated it, and we’ve decided it’s going to stay.”
But he insisted his party could afford the triple lock “many, many times over” because in two weeks it would outline “the most radical proposals to cutting welfare ever seen in this country”.
He defended the spending on pensioners, describing them for the most part as “people who have actually worked and paid into the system”.
But he also suggested that people could have to work for longer before they reach a new, higher state pension age, describing it as a “massive subject” and saying there was “a logic” to the idea “provided people are fit…, even if many people find it rather unpalatable”.
Reform UK will also look to scrap defined benefit pensions for new entrants in the public sector, he announced.
On benefits cuts, Mr Jenrick made clear they would apply to people born in Britain, but he added his party would say more in the next few weeks about that hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came to the UK as part of the so-called ‘Boriswave’,
He claimed that the cost to the UK of the wave, “if they remain in the UK for the rest of their lives, is likely to be of a scale that we have not known in our lifetime, a sum of money as big as Covid or the Second World War, a giant sum of money. And that has to be stopped.”
The triple lock, introduced by David Cameron’s government, means the state pension rises by the rate of inflation, average earnings or 2.5 per cent – whichever is highest.
The system is popular with pensioners, but there have been increasing questions over its economic viability in recent years.
A Conservative source said Reform UK were “all over the place on the triple lock”, adding: “It’s increasingly clear Jenrick is strong-arming Farage into backing unfunded policies with no credible plan to deliver them as Reform’s local election campaign descends into chaos.”
The shift means Reform will commit to keeping the policy if it wins the next general election.
The announcement comes as the party vies to win votes in elections to English councils, the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Senedd at the start of next month.
Mr Jenrick recently said he had “always been a supporter” of the policy, adding:: ‘We’re going to say more, but it’s incredibly important we provide dignity and security to older people on fixed incomes in the last decades of their life.”
VivianOfTheOblivion on
How many of their supporters are on benefits? Going from watching The News Agents interviewing people on the street over the years, I would have thought it’d be a lot.
mockfu on
Reform are MAGA wannabes, the only reason to do this is to enrich their rich, racist mates while their poor, stupid, racist supporters suffer along with the rest of us.
ucardiologist on
We believe you
Are you tired of winning yet? We are winning we are winning so bad that we can’t stop winning.
HeadBat1863 on
As time goes on, I become more convinced in myself that state pension should only be given to people who forfeit their voting rights.
SureSell6750 on
On a side note can I just say how much I fucking hate when political parties just aimlessly give money to pensioners because they know they vote
Curious-Art-6242 on
But pensioners are the biggest users of all other benefits!
badgerandcheese on
So take from the young and give to the old. Brillo.
Evry1TookTheGudNames on
Several months ago it was “refuses to rule out” getting rid of it
toddy_king on
It’s official.
We go bankrupt as a country before triple-lock is touched.
None of the parties would ever touch it. Not Reform, not Green.
SDLRob on
So kill disabled people to fund old people …
Disgusting
NoTitleChamp on
Pensions take up the biggest part of the welfare budget.
birdinthebush74 on
Party most popular with pensioners funds pensions , what a surprise.
But he also suggested that people could have to work for longer before they reach a new, higher state pension age, describing it as a “massive subject” and saying there was “a logic” to the idea “provided people are fit…, even if many people find it rather unpalatable”.
I wonder what age he will increase the state pension age to ?
dewittless on
I see Reform are going for the “piñata* approach to benefits and crime, where desperate people must find a wealthy pensioner and beat them up for the cash they would otherwise get.
Intruder313 on
Got to keep the largest bloc of benefit receiving voters on board!
Pensions dwarf other benefits
UnrealCanine on
The PTL is a ticking time bomb that everyone is burying their heads in the sand
TheFergPunk on
Sorry starving kids but grandad needs another cruise.
Glittering_Box4815 on
Tell me you’re the Tory party without telling me you’re the Tory party…
the_beer_truck on
I thought Nigel wanted to get rid of the triple lock. Has he u-turned on this?
Orangesteel on
Going for the OAP vote. Still, privatising the NHS means that money won’t go far.
HotMachine9 on
Holy shit.
They’re literally just moving money from one area to another.
They’re not going to do anything with the money.
I mean I expected bad. This is atrocious.
Cut benefits > fund benefits for old people
Investment in public services? Potholes.
Investment in NHS? Privitise
Border control? Don’t ask them for their plans!
RoyalJacko on
I want to get rid of the triple lock, but honestly, it’s political suicide during elections. Older people vote in higher numbers than younger people, so most policies tend to favour them. Until young people start voting in large numbers, no political party will be brave enough to scrap the triple lock. The question really is, how do we get more young people to vote and actually care about elections?
No_Title_5126 on
What a dumbass.
If we didnt have to face the consequences Id love to let them have their way and watch it all go to shit, like Americans are finding with Trump.
Busted_Ravioli on
State pension is a benefit. Funded from general taxation of current workers.
Lo_jak on
We could all be sat cashing in our weekly food tokens before the triple lock gets abandoned…… ive never known of a policy that causes so much financial burden and yet we choose to ignore the damage that its doing for our future generations.
Im a millennial born in the late 80s and I came to the realisation that there wont be a state pension for us a very long time ago. The last group of people to get it will feel like the soldiers on the last chopper out of Saigon, and the rest of us will watch on as we work well into our 70s.
Policies like this are creating a massive cultural rift between generations and those who benefited from the triple lock, free education and dirt cheap housing look down at the younger generations like they didnt try hard enough… but in reality they were just born at the right time.
Lower-Main2538 on
Pensions are literally crippling working people. Lol.
None of this.. They paid in nonsense. They are officially taking out more than they paid in. And not forgetting NHS care and social care + prescriptions + heating allowance.
This is getting beyond absurd.
Before any individual says something about immigrants. Yes we need to stop that too.
supersonic-bionic on
Those Reform voters on benefits must feel so stupid rn but most likely they won’t get it
Beautiful_Bad333 on
Not that they ever had it but they’d have lost my vote with this. If there’s any benefit that needs addressing/removing it’s the triple lock. Pension should be inflation linked end of and should be phased out over the next 35 years. Starting today reducing the max by 1/35 yearly, alongside people encouraged to save into their own private pension. Their tax can then be adjusted to relieve the pension burden and this will help older generations benefit from their current contributions and the young can have a tax reduction, seen as they are paying more in earlier life now – student loans/higher home prices than is needed in pension. Plus they have time to compound their savings.
People need to realise it’s not a big pot they’re paying into but the next generation funding their retirement and it’s unsustainable with an ageing population and less immigration.
Particular_Tough4860 on
>On benefits cuts, Mr Jenrick made clear they would apply to people born in Britain, but he added his party would say more in the next few weeks about that hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came to the UK as part of the so-called ‘Boriswave’
We really need to find out who was immigration minister during the Boriswave and make sure they never get near power again.
Maybe Mr Jenwick could help us identify the culprit?
lizzywbu on
Farage has said that they will do 200 billion worth of spending cuts. Its truly absurd.
jamesbeil on
“Funding benefits by cutting other benefits!”
It’s just a naked bit of pandering. Fuck me, we’re not going to make it as a country, are we? We’ve got ten years tops before the ponzi scheme falls apart.
steepleton on
if i was a russian agent, paid to create chaos, i would create policies deliberately pitched to set britons at each others throats.
just saying
FrustratedPCBuild on
So working people should be punished to pay for people who are wealthier in retirement than many of them are while working. Yes, I know there are poor pensioners who didn’t vote Brexit but most aren’t and did.
Cute_Ad_9730 on
‘Desperate gobshite is desperate’ Stop giving him publicity.
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Pensions are the biggest benefit in history though.
Thank God, more stupid decisions that look like they’re going to lead to the tanking of the party.
Then we can see where **”other”** really stands.
Nigel Farage has confirmed Reform UK would keep the triple lock for state pensions and will fund it with the “biggest cuts to the benefits bill ever seen in this country”.
The Reform UK leader has previously been sceptical about guaranteeing the triple lock, warning that the current system is “unaffordable on a national level”.
At a press conference in central London, Reform’s Treasury spokesman Robert Jenrick pledged to cut “tens and tens of billions” of pounds of government waste and reset spending to “actually put the British people first”.
“We have already identified £40bn of savings every year”, he added.
The U-turn comes just months after Mr Farage said that his party would not “guarantee anything” to pensioners, saying they would have “to see what the economics of this are like nearer the next election”.
Mr Farage defended the shift, saying: “When I said the jury’s out on the triple lock and what we would decide to do on this… if I could just interpret that into simple English, what I meant was the jury’s out. Not that I’d made my mind up either way.
“And we have discussed it, and we have debated it, and we’ve decided it’s going to stay.”
But he insisted his party could afford the triple lock “many, many times over” because in two weeks it would outline “the most radical proposals to cutting welfare ever seen in this country”.
He defended the spending on pensioners, describing them for the most part as “people who have actually worked and paid into the system”.
But he also suggested that people could have to work for longer before they reach a new, higher state pension age, describing it as a “massive subject” and saying there was “a logic” to the idea “provided people are fit…, even if many people find it rather unpalatable”.
Reform UK will also look to scrap defined benefit pensions for new entrants in the public sector, he announced.
On benefits cuts, Mr Jenrick made clear they would apply to people born in Britain, but he added his party would say more in the next few weeks about that hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came to the UK as part of the so-called ‘Boriswave’,
He claimed that the cost to the UK of the wave, “if they remain in the UK for the rest of their lives, is likely to be of a scale that we have not known in our lifetime, a sum of money as big as Covid or the Second World War, a giant sum of money. And that has to be stopped.”
The triple lock, introduced by David Cameron’s government, means the state pension rises by the rate of inflation, average earnings or 2.5 per cent – whichever is highest.
The system is popular with pensioners, but there have been increasing questions over its economic viability in recent years.
A Conservative source said Reform UK were “all over the place on the triple lock”, adding: “It’s increasingly clear Jenrick is strong-arming Farage into backing unfunded policies with no credible plan to deliver them as Reform’s local election campaign descends into chaos.”
The shift means Reform will commit to keeping the policy if it wins the next general election.
The announcement comes as the party vies to win votes in elections to English councils, the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Senedd at the start of next month.
Mr Jenrick recently said he had “always been a supporter” of the policy, adding:: ‘We’re going to say more, but it’s incredibly important we provide dignity and security to older people on fixed incomes in the last decades of their life.”
How many of their supporters are on benefits? Going from watching The News Agents interviewing people on the street over the years, I would have thought it’d be a lot.
Reform are MAGA wannabes, the only reason to do this is to enrich their rich, racist mates while their poor, stupid, racist supporters suffer along with the rest of us.
We believe you
Are you tired of winning yet? We are winning we are winning so bad that we can’t stop winning.
As time goes on, I become more convinced in myself that state pension should only be given to people who forfeit their voting rights.
On a side note can I just say how much I fucking hate when political parties just aimlessly give money to pensioners because they know they vote
But pensioners are the biggest users of all other benefits!
So take from the young and give to the old. Brillo.
Several months ago it was “refuses to rule out” getting rid of it
It’s official.
We go bankrupt as a country before triple-lock is touched.
None of the parties would ever touch it. Not Reform, not Green.
So kill disabled people to fund old people …
Disgusting
Pensions take up the biggest part of the welfare budget.
Party most popular with pensioners funds pensions , what a surprise.
But he also suggested that people could have to work for longer before they reach a new, higher state pension age, describing it as a “massive subject” and saying there was “a logic” to the idea “provided people are fit…, even if many people find it rather unpalatable”.
I wonder what age he will increase the state pension age to ?
I see Reform are going for the “piñata* approach to benefits and crime, where desperate people must find a wealthy pensioner and beat them up for the cash they would otherwise get.
Got to keep the largest bloc of benefit receiving voters on board!
Pensions dwarf other benefits
The PTL is a ticking time bomb that everyone is burying their heads in the sand
Sorry starving kids but grandad needs another cruise.
Tell me you’re the Tory party without telling me you’re the Tory party…
I thought Nigel wanted to get rid of the triple lock. Has he u-turned on this?
Going for the OAP vote. Still, privatising the NHS means that money won’t go far.
Holy shit.
They’re literally just moving money from one area to another.
They’re not going to do anything with the money.
I mean I expected bad. This is atrocious.
Cut benefits > fund benefits for old people
Investment in public services? Potholes.
Investment in NHS? Privitise
Border control? Don’t ask them for their plans!
I want to get rid of the triple lock, but honestly, it’s political suicide during elections. Older people vote in higher numbers than younger people, so most policies tend to favour them. Until young people start voting in large numbers, no political party will be brave enough to scrap the triple lock. The question really is, how do we get more young people to vote and actually care about elections?
What a dumbass.
If we didnt have to face the consequences Id love to let them have their way and watch it all go to shit, like Americans are finding with Trump.
State pension is a benefit. Funded from general taxation of current workers.
We could all be sat cashing in our weekly food tokens before the triple lock gets abandoned…… ive never known of a policy that causes so much financial burden and yet we choose to ignore the damage that its doing for our future generations.
Im a millennial born in the late 80s and I came to the realisation that there wont be a state pension for us a very long time ago. The last group of people to get it will feel like the soldiers on the last chopper out of Saigon, and the rest of us will watch on as we work well into our 70s.
Policies like this are creating a massive cultural rift between generations and those who benefited from the triple lock, free education and dirt cheap housing look down at the younger generations like they didnt try hard enough… but in reality they were just born at the right time.
Pensions are literally crippling working people. Lol.
None of this.. They paid in nonsense. They are officially taking out more than they paid in. And not forgetting NHS care and social care + prescriptions + heating allowance.
This is getting beyond absurd.
Before any individual says something about immigrants. Yes we need to stop that too.
Those Reform voters on benefits must feel so stupid rn but most likely they won’t get it
Not that they ever had it but they’d have lost my vote with this. If there’s any benefit that needs addressing/removing it’s the triple lock. Pension should be inflation linked end of and should be phased out over the next 35 years. Starting today reducing the max by 1/35 yearly, alongside people encouraged to save into their own private pension. Their tax can then be adjusted to relieve the pension burden and this will help older generations benefit from their current contributions and the young can have a tax reduction, seen as they are paying more in earlier life now – student loans/higher home prices than is needed in pension. Plus they have time to compound their savings.
People need to realise it’s not a big pot they’re paying into but the next generation funding their retirement and it’s unsustainable with an ageing population and less immigration.
>On benefits cuts, Mr Jenrick made clear they would apply to people born in Britain, but he added his party would say more in the next few weeks about that hundreds of thousands of immigrants who came to the UK as part of the so-called ‘Boriswave’
We really need to find out who was immigration minister during the Boriswave and make sure they never get near power again.
Maybe Mr Jenwick could help us identify the culprit?
Farage has said that they will do 200 billion worth of spending cuts. Its truly absurd.
“Funding benefits by cutting other benefits!”
It’s just a naked bit of pandering. Fuck me, we’re not going to make it as a country, are we? We’ve got ten years tops before the ponzi scheme falls apart.
if i was a russian agent, paid to create chaos, i would create policies deliberately pitched to set britons at each others throats.
just saying
So working people should be punished to pay for people who are wealthier in retirement than many of them are while working. Yes, I know there are poor pensioners who didn’t vote Brexit but most aren’t and did.
‘Desperate gobshite is desperate’ Stop giving him publicity.