Stalking hasn’t increased, it’s just that it’s now weaponised as a revenge tactic against exes or anybody else the complainent doesn’t like. I’m not saying that true cases of stalking don’t exist, it’s just that the explanation of a 50 fold increase in just the last decade lends itself to the weaponisation of reporting somebody for stalking.
This is really troublesome as real cases may be overlooked, or not investigated to level that they deserve, and false cases followed through with leading to the prosecution of an innocent person.
VariousClassroom8056 on
The headline is a bit misleading – technically it’s true but there’s a lot more to the figures.
Stalking was only made a specific criminal offence in 2012 with low initial recording as police and the public adjusted to the new category. Before that the behaviours fell under broader harassment. Early figures were tiny (e.g. around 2,885 in year ending March 2015), so the baseline was artificially low.
The 2017 change to “principal crime” rules led to over-recording of stalking/harassment (sometimes requiring two crimes to be logged for the same incident). This was partially reversed in 2023, but the net effect over the decade was inflated counts.
The Crime Survey for England and Wales is considered more reliable for trends in many crime types, as it bypasses reporting/recording biases – and shows stalking prevalence has been relatively stable over the last 10 years.
Any instance of stalking and harassment is one too many of course
Deadliftdeadlife on
> Increased recognition of crime and perpetrators using technology to track victims are behind rise, say experts
Had an ex stalk me. She’d drive down my street to see if I was in or out, use instagram and Snapchat to try to figure out where I was, what I was doing.
I think I blocked over 50 accounts across multiple social media, and that included asking friends about new followers that might be her trying to use their accounts to find me.
This was all after firm warnings to leave me alone.
Didn’t report it because the police are useless and I never felt like I was in physical danger
2Fast2Mildly_Peeved on
A few things affect this.
Firstly, any unwanted contact between ex partners is automatically recorded as a stalking in my force. Not harassment, stalking. Even if later it’s established it’s been a bit of back and forth, it’ll remain crimed as a stalking. This is even when the details of the matter do not amount to stalking at all. Reason being is that they want stalking to be considered at all times with all offences so it isn’t missed (See Alice Ruggles, who was let down hugely) and the risk ignored.
Secondly due to the way crime recording works, if there is a course of conduct offence alongside other offences, you will crime the other offence (say, Assault), and also crime a stalking. Whereas if you had other offences with the Assault such as criminal damage, malicious communications, public order, you’d only record the one crime.
These changes, certainly in my force came in about the same that there’s the massive leap in the statistics.
That said, the article isn’t wrong in some of the other factors. Better recognition of stalking behaviours, more awareness, willingness to report, more ways to stalk someone than ever before.
Illustrious_Body5907 on
It’s insane how much social media helped with this. You can make a sock puppet account in minutes and harass people for YEARS just by making them over and over.
This one YouTuber made a series of informational videos about how she got a decade of harassment over it because this one girl couldn’t get over the fact the YouTuber met her husband first and had a relationship (that ended badly). She posted nasty stuff to her boss on her sock puppet socials all the while actively chatting with her on her real accounts.
Who the hell made snap maps and all that stuff legal? Not even counting all the covert surveillance we’re probably not even aware tech companies have on us.
Cynical_Classicist on
Technically that could just mean that it’s getting recorded more. It’s like when people scaremonger about high rape rates in Sweden and blame it on immigrants, rather than looking into how the way that it’s recorded means that it appears higher. This stalking headline might actually be a good thing as more people are getting charged.
MouldyAvocados on
I was stalked for 10 years by a man I had one date with. Even when I changed my phone number/email address, or moved house, he’d find them and continue to send tens of texts and emails declaring his love, then telling me how he was going to rape me to death for not responding to him. The police didn’t give a shit until he broke into my house to rape/kill me. It was only then that I found out a mutual friend was supplying him with my updated info because, “I thought you were harsh and he deserved a second chance”. I’m glad the law is starting to take stalking seriously.
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Stalking hasn’t increased, it’s just that it’s now weaponised as a revenge tactic against exes or anybody else the complainent doesn’t like. I’m not saying that true cases of stalking don’t exist, it’s just that the explanation of a 50 fold increase in just the last decade lends itself to the weaponisation of reporting somebody for stalking.
This is really troublesome as real cases may be overlooked, or not investigated to level that they deserve, and false cases followed through with leading to the prosecution of an innocent person.
The headline is a bit misleading – technically it’s true but there’s a lot more to the figures.
Stalking was only made a specific criminal offence in 2012 with low initial recording as police and the public adjusted to the new category. Before that the behaviours fell under broader harassment. Early figures were tiny (e.g. around 2,885 in year ending March 2015), so the baseline was artificially low.
The 2017 change to “principal crime” rules led to over-recording of stalking/harassment (sometimes requiring two crimes to be logged for the same incident). This was partially reversed in 2023, but the net effect over the decade was inflated counts.
The Crime Survey for England and Wales is considered more reliable for trends in many crime types, as it bypasses reporting/recording biases – and shows stalking prevalence has been relatively stable over the last 10 years.
The link to CSEW figures for those interested
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingseptember2025
Any instance of stalking and harassment is one too many of course
> Increased recognition of crime and perpetrators using technology to track victims are behind rise, say experts
Had an ex stalk me. She’d drive down my street to see if I was in or out, use instagram and Snapchat to try to figure out where I was, what I was doing.
I think I blocked over 50 accounts across multiple social media, and that included asking friends about new followers that might be her trying to use their accounts to find me.
This was all after firm warnings to leave me alone.
Didn’t report it because the police are useless and I never felt like I was in physical danger
A few things affect this.
Firstly, any unwanted contact between ex partners is automatically recorded as a stalking in my force. Not harassment, stalking. Even if later it’s established it’s been a bit of back and forth, it’ll remain crimed as a stalking. This is even when the details of the matter do not amount to stalking at all. Reason being is that they want stalking to be considered at all times with all offences so it isn’t missed (See Alice Ruggles, who was let down hugely) and the risk ignored.
Secondly due to the way crime recording works, if there is a course of conduct offence alongside other offences, you will crime the other offence (say, Assault), and also crime a stalking. Whereas if you had other offences with the Assault such as criminal damage, malicious communications, public order, you’d only record the one crime.
These changes, certainly in my force came in about the same that there’s the massive leap in the statistics.
That said, the article isn’t wrong in some of the other factors. Better recognition of stalking behaviours, more awareness, willingness to report, more ways to stalk someone than ever before.
It’s insane how much social media helped with this. You can make a sock puppet account in minutes and harass people for YEARS just by making them over and over.
This one YouTuber made a series of informational videos about how she got a decade of harassment over it because this one girl couldn’t get over the fact the YouTuber met her husband first and had a relationship (that ended badly). She posted nasty stuff to her boss on her sock puppet socials all the while actively chatting with her on her real accounts.
Who the hell made snap maps and all that stuff legal? Not even counting all the covert surveillance we’re probably not even aware tech companies have on us.
Technically that could just mean that it’s getting recorded more. It’s like when people scaremonger about high rape rates in Sweden and blame it on immigrants, rather than looking into how the way that it’s recorded means that it appears higher. This stalking headline might actually be a good thing as more people are getting charged.
I was stalked for 10 years by a man I had one date with. Even when I changed my phone number/email address, or moved house, he’d find them and continue to send tens of texts and emails declaring his love, then telling me how he was going to rape me to death for not responding to him. The police didn’t give a shit until he broke into my house to rape/kill me. It was only then that I found out a mutual friend was supplying him with my updated info because, “I thought you were harsh and he deserved a second chance”. I’m glad the law is starting to take stalking seriously.