I wouldn’t mind a disco not owned by some mafia dudes, but I don’t see how that is going to fix birthrates
DigitalAscension on
Are they going to hand out condoms with holes in them?
tranbun on
>“I think the demographic situation in Lithuania is being overstated. As the economy grows – wages and purchasing power are increasing – we are seeing improving migration trends,” says Aleksandras Izgorodinas, chief economist at Citadele Bank.
>“That is, despite all the political risks, more people are coming to Lithuania, including citizens who left the country 10 years ago, as well as foreigners,” he added.
Good that Lithuania looks at it pragmatically. While it’s economically beneficial to not have children and still have guaranteed pension, people will choose that path. Either make taxes for childless marginally higher (and lower for families with many children) or reduce social guarantees for elders without children to the minimum. That would balance the system much better than what we have now. I hope Finland starts moving into that direction decisively instead of thinking who and what benefits people should receive.
Raise tax in alcohol, raise investment in infrastructure, and maybe you get an environment optimized to *raise* kids 😉
LaurestineHUN on
How’s the housing crisis?
KaiserSeelenlos on
Everything except for fixing the cost of living.
itssomedudeguy on
This is one interesting idea. But let’s take it a step further! Back in the 80s, the Swedish state sponsored busses full of women bound to the north of Sweden towards municipalities with declining populations and where there was significantly more men than women. The idea was that by organizing these bus trips and discos in the municipalities, some women would stay and the couples would have children and help increase the populations… https://youtu.be/qBS6K9WCJb0?is=nIopYtfu54dghgWv
spez_eats_my_dick on
Young people can’t afford housing. Where will they raise their children? In the streets? In their parents apartment? Pay for rent that increases every year? Good luck with that.
doctor_morris on
Salaries for mums.
First country to figure that out becomes a superpower in 20 years time.
RefrigeratorDry3004 on
How about just making it free?
Hendrik1011 on
The only way that I can see to sustainably increase birth rates without cutting back on womens rights would be to increase minimum wage to where you can feed 3 people with either 2 part time or one full time job.
continuousQ on
There are plenty of people. Maybe there will be fewer in the future. So what? The entire world had 1 billion people a couple of centuries ago, now there are countries bigger than that. Meanwhile, companies are racing to fire as many people as possible. Wealth inequality is growing. If we were desperate for more workers, it would go the other way. There’s plenty of wealth in any case. Plenty to eat.
Krigrim on
I swear to god governments around the world will do ANYTHING but raise wages or solve the housing crisis…
DocHolidayPhD on
Yes! Maybe the government is finally realizing that if you don’t give people the money, time, space, and permission to socialize they aren’t going to be as likely to procreate!
razvanciuy on
Money helps. Not “get em drunk and hope they don;t have condoms”
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I wouldn’t mind a disco not owned by some mafia dudes, but I don’t see how that is going to fix birthrates
Are they going to hand out condoms with holes in them?
>“I think the demographic situation in Lithuania is being overstated. As the economy grows – wages and purchasing power are increasing – we are seeing improving migration trends,” says Aleksandras Izgorodinas, chief economist at Citadele Bank.
>“That is, despite all the political risks, more people are coming to Lithuania, including citizens who left the country 10 years ago, as well as foreigners,” he added.
When I look at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Lithuania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Lithuania) I don’t think it’s overstated.
Good that Lithuania looks at it pragmatically. While it’s economically beneficial to not have children and still have guaranteed pension, people will choose that path. Either make taxes for childless marginally higher (and lower for families with many children) or reduce social guarantees for elders without children to the minimum. That would balance the system much better than what we have now. I hope Finland starts moving into that direction decisively instead of thinking who and what benefits people should receive.
Cut tax on alcohol, [cut investment in power infrastructure](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25007970/), and maybe you’ll *get* more kids.
Raise tax in alcohol, raise investment in infrastructure, and maybe you get an environment optimized to *raise* kids 😉
How’s the housing crisis?
Everything except for fixing the cost of living.
This is one interesting idea. But let’s take it a step further! Back in the 80s, the Swedish state sponsored busses full of women bound to the north of Sweden towards municipalities with declining populations and where there was significantly more men than women. The idea was that by organizing these bus trips and discos in the municipalities, some women would stay and the couples would have children and help increase the populations… https://youtu.be/qBS6K9WCJb0?is=nIopYtfu54dghgWv
Young people can’t afford housing. Where will they raise their children? In the streets? In their parents apartment? Pay for rent that increases every year? Good luck with that.
Salaries for mums.
First country to figure that out becomes a superpower in 20 years time.
How about just making it free?
The only way that I can see to sustainably increase birth rates without cutting back on womens rights would be to increase minimum wage to where you can feed 3 people with either 2 part time or one full time job.
There are plenty of people. Maybe there will be fewer in the future. So what? The entire world had 1 billion people a couple of centuries ago, now there are countries bigger than that. Meanwhile, companies are racing to fire as many people as possible. Wealth inequality is growing. If we were desperate for more workers, it would go the other way. There’s plenty of wealth in any case. Plenty to eat.
I swear to god governments around the world will do ANYTHING but raise wages or solve the housing crisis…
Yes! Maybe the government is finally realizing that if you don’t give people the money, time, space, and permission to socialize they aren’t going to be as likely to procreate!
Money helps. Not “get em drunk and hope they don;t have condoms”