But some commenters on Reddit assured me that Russia posed no threat to the UK, as we didn’t have a land border with them, their navy was decrepit and the warnings by key defence personnel about their capabilities was just fear-mongering for extra money…
kahnindustries on
Be good if we had some working submarines in that area. Maybe send one of the hundreds of flag officers with a snorkle to investigate instead?
MGC91 on
>Consequently, this year the UK’s carrier group will be deployed to the High North and lead the new Nato mission, Arctic Sentry. Healey says this is “where it is most needed”.
Almost like the threat to the UK from Russia hasn’t gone away despite events in the Middle East, and perhaps deploying a Carrier Strike Group to that region instead of to the High North would actually damage the UK’s security more …
FrostyDoggo on
A bit of me wonders why we couldn’t just torpedo these subs? Just claim we didn’t know where they came from, but we saw them in illegally our waters near our infrastructure.
Surely that’s the simplest way to tell putin to f off? The “we see you” message does absolutely nothing
EarCareful4430 on
Russias best military assets are its subs. And if they can’t even sneak about our cables. They are cooked.
LostInTheVoid_ on
To the surprise of literally no one who actually takes a bit of interest in defence matters.
We need more funding put towards defence. For as good as the kit we do have and the level of our training we simply don’t have enough of it across all three branches. We’re letting logistics slip across the board. Maintenance for certain systems is in a horrible state.
The increase in Russian activity, the problem we see with global shipping routes being impacted causing global instability. It’s almost like we actually might need to get serious finally about defence. For 30+ years we’ve just reduced capabilities shifted the doctrine of the type of wars we’d be fighting. That’s gotta change.
jasonbirder on
You’ll struggle to find anyone who dislikes Russia more than me…
But surely “Russian Submarines in the Atlantic ocean” isn’t much of a headline?
Codydoc4 on
Can we boot the russian asset (Evgeny Lebedev) in the house of lords out now.
ash_ninetyone on
I get that Russia is also testing our response and is using this as a goading tactic. Not that there’s much else you can do in international waters than monitor and expose them…
But at what point do we also just blast one of these out of the water to get them to fuck off?
Brilliant_Version344 on
Our military should be on a nato and European first approach none of the global Britian bs
Satyriasis457 on
If they’re a real threat, deal with it appropriately.
Drnorman91 on
What no one seems to have realised here is that we haven’t discussed what our subs are doing, we are monitoring them closely
SpatulaWholesale on
>[Healey] adds that the UK has one of the most resilient undersea networks of any nation, with in-built contingencies, and he remains confident no damage has been done.
Wouldn’t Russia want to *mine* the cables, if they get close enough to deploy robots down to the sea floor?
To go all that way just to loiter *without* intent seems unlikely.
CantaloupeThis1217 on
It’s wild how quickly people dismiss the Russian threat just because they’re not next door. This deployment to the High North feels like a necessary, if overdue, reality check.
calewiz on
Why do we let them live so freely in London, using our banking infrastructure to launder their money. We’ve even got KGB in the House of Lords ffs.
quickduck73 on
Farage would welcome this sort of behaviour. Please for the love of god Reform voters, let this sink in
DandyLionsInSiberia on
The Kremlin seems to think it’s still playing dress-up in the Cold War, wheel out and hand power to a cold war relic, dust off the paranoia, and voilà, the whole shabby script writes itself.
Meanwhile, ordinary Russians are stuck in a grim farce that would be funny if it weren’t so bleak. Imagine the radical notion – ditch Putin, turf out the grasping oligarchs, and build something vaguely resembling a modern state, one with accountability, transparency, and fewer backroom deals conducted like mafia auditions.
Instead, they’re handed a permanent state of siege, a chest-thumping distraction designed to keep the spotlight off a ruling clique of strongmen and spivs. It’s not patriotism, it’s political stagecraft, and the audience, as ever, is expected to clap while their pockets are picked.
So daft.
MichaelAndretti on
Have you seen the submarine and Farage in the same room at the same time?
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But some commenters on Reddit assured me that Russia posed no threat to the UK, as we didn’t have a land border with them, their navy was decrepit and the warnings by key defence personnel about their capabilities was just fear-mongering for extra money…
Be good if we had some working submarines in that area. Maybe send one of the hundreds of flag officers with a snorkle to investigate instead?
>Consequently, this year the UK’s carrier group will be deployed to the High North and lead the new Nato mission, Arctic Sentry. Healey says this is “where it is most needed”.
Almost like the threat to the UK from Russia hasn’t gone away despite events in the Middle East, and perhaps deploying a Carrier Strike Group to that region instead of to the High North would actually damage the UK’s security more …
A bit of me wonders why we couldn’t just torpedo these subs? Just claim we didn’t know where they came from, but we saw them in illegally our waters near our infrastructure.
Surely that’s the simplest way to tell putin to f off? The “we see you” message does absolutely nothing
Russias best military assets are its subs. And if they can’t even sneak about our cables. They are cooked.
To the surprise of literally no one who actually takes a bit of interest in defence matters.
We need more funding put towards defence. For as good as the kit we do have and the level of our training we simply don’t have enough of it across all three branches. We’re letting logistics slip across the board. Maintenance for certain systems is in a horrible state.
The increase in Russian activity, the problem we see with global shipping routes being impacted causing global instability. It’s almost like we actually might need to get serious finally about defence. For 30+ years we’ve just reduced capabilities shifted the doctrine of the type of wars we’d be fighting. That’s gotta change.
You’ll struggle to find anyone who dislikes Russia more than me…
But surely “Russian Submarines in the Atlantic ocean” isn’t much of a headline?
Can we boot the russian asset (Evgeny Lebedev) in the house of lords out now.
I get that Russia is also testing our response and is using this as a goading tactic. Not that there’s much else you can do in international waters than monitor and expose them…
But at what point do we also just blast one of these out of the water to get them to fuck off?
Our military should be on a nato and European first approach none of the global Britian bs
If they’re a real threat, deal with it appropriately.
What no one seems to have realised here is that we haven’t discussed what our subs are doing, we are monitoring them closely
>[Healey] adds that the UK has one of the most resilient undersea networks of any nation, with in-built contingencies, and he remains confident no damage has been done.
Wouldn’t Russia want to *mine* the cables, if they get close enough to deploy robots down to the sea floor?
To go all that way just to loiter *without* intent seems unlikely.
It’s wild how quickly people dismiss the Russian threat just because they’re not next door. This deployment to the High North feels like a necessary, if overdue, reality check.
Why do we let them live so freely in London, using our banking infrastructure to launder their money. We’ve even got KGB in the House of Lords ffs.
Farage would welcome this sort of behaviour. Please for the love of god Reform voters, let this sink in
The Kremlin seems to think it’s still playing dress-up in the Cold War, wheel out and hand power to a cold war relic, dust off the paranoia, and voilà, the whole shabby script writes itself.
Meanwhile, ordinary Russians are stuck in a grim farce that would be funny if it weren’t so bleak. Imagine the radical notion – ditch Putin, turf out the grasping oligarchs, and build something vaguely resembling a modern state, one with accountability, transparency, and fewer backroom deals conducted like mafia auditions.
Instead, they’re handed a permanent state of siege, a chest-thumping distraction designed to keep the spotlight off a ruling clique of strongmen and spivs. It’s not patriotism, it’s political stagecraft, and the audience, as ever, is expected to clap while their pockets are picked.
So daft.
Have you seen the submarine and Farage in the same room at the same time?