Some of the behaviour described around these protests has been pretty troubling. The article highlights how a few organisers used aggressive rhetoric including talk of “putting a gun to the government’s head” and how misinformation and calls to escalate blockades circulated in WhatsApp groups. While many participants appear focused on fuel prices, a minority have pushed extreme tactics or tried to hijack the movement for other agendas, creating a nastier edge around parts of the protest activity.
Traditional_Sock444 on
It feels like these people have a very flawed view of how taxation works, how our society is structured and over all they seem disproportionately angry.
WideChrome1 on
Comparing themselves to the Easter rising hahaha
This is all one big right wing LARP
SoloWingPixy88 on
I’ve seen some of these WhatsApp groups, they don’t care about the Irish people. Bunch of self interested terrorists at this stage
Didyouseethebubble87 on
The inflated view they have of themselves is pathetic. Yes we need truck drivers and farmers. The vast majority of truck drivers and farmers have been working during this mess. You’re going out of business? OK. Thats a YOU problem.
Dublin-Boh on
I’m conflicted. I understand their concerns and think things like farming need to be protected. I think anything that contributes to basic human rights should be.
However, the communication is not helping – outside of the anti-everything nonsense, it doesn’t help to say you have “the country by the balls”, when it should be the government’s feet you’re holding to the fire for the good of the country. It makes the protest come across as self-centred and greedy.
xithus1 on
Pack of absolute troublemaking pricks.
Seargentyates on
My big takeaway is that according to one Donald Trump has nothing to do with the issue, when he has everything to do with the rising cost of fuel. its curious why no one is protesting the American embassy or Shannon airport.
ErikasPrisonGlam on
What gets me is people saying that the Irish have no appetite for protest. What other group has ever been allowed to pull this shit. Palestine supporters were pepper sprayed a few months ago for blocking a single port.
smurfulike on
Half tempted to find out which businesses are using these so called patriots and calling them to see if they support them or will they be cutting ties with them.
RabbitOld5783 on
It’s getting very serious now wonder what consequences this will have any deaths for example from people not able to get to emergency appointments, care staff not being able to help elderly people at home , medicines not being able to be delivered, it’s gone too far already any longer it will be too much
SnagBreacComradai on
Laughed my arse off at one fella suggesting they blockade Trump’s Doonbeg hotel and it getting shot down with the organisers saying, ‘he’s got nothing to do with it, so no’
That fat orange fucker started all of this for fucks sake!
didroe on
This is ultimately a supply issue. If prices aren’t allowed to go up sufficiently to effect behavioural change then it will be a much worse situation. If too much blanket support is given then fuel allocation won’t be as efficient.
Let’s not forget also that this is only the beginning. The war in the Middle East is not yet resolved. And the effects so far have not been fully felt yet. Things will get worse. The government needs to force some level of adaption to the new reality on people, and save some measures for the future.
Having said that, I think people have a right to protest. And there is more the government could be doing now both to help key sectors and also prepare for what’s coming down the line.
Subterraniate2 on
Dig the doubtfully domestic protest-supporter in that Whats App group referring to ‘the Irish government fella Michael (sic) Martin’. The Irish government fella?
BroccoliOk6251 on
Look out for older neighbours who might be stuck. A lot of care workers can’t get to their patients, they might be missing getting a meal cooked or some shopping done for them.
AnyDamnThingWillDo on
Would the protest not be better used with people dismantling the American and Israeli embassies brick by brick? We have a shower of gobshites in charge of the running of the country? Yes! They are not really responsible for the actions in an illegal war. Whatever became of that Apple payout they were forced to take? That could be used to offset some of the financial pain we’re going through.
Dreenar18 on
There’s only three parties to blame for the fuel prices and none of them are irish
rankinrez on
> The Journal has seen those attempting to pivot the conversation to immigration being removed from organising WhatsApp groups in multiple cases
Fair play. I was also happy to see the guy on Prime Time last night focusing on fuel and cost of living stuff.
I think the protest tactics are beyond the pale, and I think the demands are unrealistic to make in terms of the current global instability. But I am glad they are sticking to what it’s actually about – something affecting everyday people – and resisting those who would hijack it for their culture war racist agenda.
Individual-Mud262 on
We should be angry at the government….for not protecting critical infrastructure.
These people need to be removed and charged. Its not peaceful protest, its not hurting who they think its hurting – they are selfish, entitled and delusional.
UpDog17 on
AI slop personified
donall on
theres a lot of mental gymnastics going on if you think you just cripple things and be some kind of hero.
Olbas_Oil on
“We have jetskis going through the port, they are stopping all ships from coming through… We’re having the port tunnel blocked, we’re blocking all fire engines, ambulances, garda cars, no one’s getting through… tonight we’re closing down every single road in the country.”
These lads are living in a fantasy world thinking they are role playing some sort of superhero group. I mean there is some serious mental gymnastics going on in the head, if you read that and beleive it…
smashedspuds on
It’s gas how the far right in Dublin are just trying to leverage their own mad agenda off this also
Key-Lie-364 on
Let’s not discount foreign interfence, this sort of destabilizing of Western democracies is textbook Kremlin psyops
finty96 on
Well on the bright side they have made it abundantly clear that we need to invest heavily in renewables and EVs, maybe even a nice nuclear plant.
Nice to see that they can’t connect trump’s war in Iran to skyrocketing prices. Some real fuckin geniuses there who “speak for the country” . I’d say even 10 year old or a crow could connect trump to the fuel price increases.
Dexamethasone1 on
All those tractors and trucks should form a blockade outside Doonbeg and don’t let anyone in or out. Not that it would do much, but that’s the real cause of the problem.
Surrealspanner on
Nothing happens in a vacuum – the cost of living crisis in Ireland is completely out of control. Fuel, Electricity, Groceries, Housing etc. is weighing on everyone, and our government has no answers. This protest was inevitable, and the fault lies with our elected officials, who behave more like caretakers than responsible governors. They are incapable of dealing with any sort of external change that affects the status quo, and have no solutions or plans besides hoping things get better somehow.
AllTheSuckInTheWorld on
Give Trump more shamrocks quick Micheal! Anyone like to defend this joke of a Govt 😂😂😂
OriginV on
Love how all these groups are flat out using AI for every poster they make.
Infomanager1 on
The chaos once the schools are back Monday will be outrageous.
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Some of the behaviour described around these protests has been pretty troubling. The article highlights how a few organisers used aggressive rhetoric including talk of “putting a gun to the government’s head” and how misinformation and calls to escalate blockades circulated in WhatsApp groups. While many participants appear focused on fuel prices, a minority have pushed extreme tactics or tried to hijack the movement for other agendas, creating a nastier edge around parts of the protest activity.
It feels like these people have a very flawed view of how taxation works, how our society is structured and over all they seem disproportionately angry.
Comparing themselves to the Easter rising hahaha
This is all one big right wing LARP
I’ve seen some of these WhatsApp groups, they don’t care about the Irish people. Bunch of self interested terrorists at this stage
The inflated view they have of themselves is pathetic. Yes we need truck drivers and farmers. The vast majority of truck drivers and farmers have been working during this mess. You’re going out of business? OK. Thats a YOU problem.
I’m conflicted. I understand their concerns and think things like farming need to be protected. I think anything that contributes to basic human rights should be.
However, the communication is not helping – outside of the anti-everything nonsense, it doesn’t help to say you have “the country by the balls”, when it should be the government’s feet you’re holding to the fire for the good of the country. It makes the protest come across as self-centred and greedy.
Pack of absolute troublemaking pricks.
My big takeaway is that according to one Donald Trump has nothing to do with the issue, when he has everything to do with the rising cost of fuel. its curious why no one is protesting the American embassy or Shannon airport.
What gets me is people saying that the Irish have no appetite for protest. What other group has ever been allowed to pull this shit. Palestine supporters were pepper sprayed a few months ago for blocking a single port.
Half tempted to find out which businesses are using these so called patriots and calling them to see if they support them or will they be cutting ties with them.
It’s getting very serious now wonder what consequences this will have any deaths for example from people not able to get to emergency appointments, care staff not being able to help elderly people at home , medicines not being able to be delivered, it’s gone too far already any longer it will be too much
Laughed my arse off at one fella suggesting they blockade Trump’s Doonbeg hotel and it getting shot down with the organisers saying, ‘he’s got nothing to do with it, so no’
That fat orange fucker started all of this for fucks sake!
This is ultimately a supply issue. If prices aren’t allowed to go up sufficiently to effect behavioural change then it will be a much worse situation. If too much blanket support is given then fuel allocation won’t be as efficient.
Let’s not forget also that this is only the beginning. The war in the Middle East is not yet resolved. And the effects so far have not been fully felt yet. Things will get worse. The government needs to force some level of adaption to the new reality on people, and save some measures for the future.
Having said that, I think people have a right to protest. And there is more the government could be doing now both to help key sectors and also prepare for what’s coming down the line.
Dig the doubtfully domestic protest-supporter in that Whats App group referring to ‘the Irish government fella Michael (sic) Martin’. The Irish government fella?
Look out for older neighbours who might be stuck. A lot of care workers can’t get to their patients, they might be missing getting a meal cooked or some shopping done for them.
Would the protest not be better used with people dismantling the American and Israeli embassies brick by brick? We have a shower of gobshites in charge of the running of the country? Yes! They are not really responsible for the actions in an illegal war. Whatever became of that Apple payout they were forced to take? That could be used to offset some of the financial pain we’re going through.
There’s only three parties to blame for the fuel prices and none of them are irish
> The Journal has seen those attempting to pivot the conversation to immigration being removed from organising WhatsApp groups in multiple cases
Fair play. I was also happy to see the guy on Prime Time last night focusing on fuel and cost of living stuff.
I think the protest tactics are beyond the pale, and I think the demands are unrealistic to make in terms of the current global instability. But I am glad they are sticking to what it’s actually about – something affecting everyday people – and resisting those who would hijack it for their culture war racist agenda.
We should be angry at the government….for not protecting critical infrastructure.
These people need to be removed and charged. Its not peaceful protest, its not hurting who they think its hurting – they are selfish, entitled and delusional.
AI slop personified
theres a lot of mental gymnastics going on if you think you just cripple things and be some kind of hero.
“We have jetskis going through the port, they are stopping all ships from coming through… We’re having the port tunnel blocked, we’re blocking all fire engines, ambulances, garda cars, no one’s getting through… tonight we’re closing down every single road in the country.”
These lads are living in a fantasy world thinking they are role playing some sort of superhero group. I mean there is some serious mental gymnastics going on in the head, if you read that and beleive it…
It’s gas how the far right in Dublin are just trying to leverage their own mad agenda off this also
Let’s not discount foreign interfence, this sort of destabilizing of Western democracies is textbook Kremlin psyops
Well on the bright side they have made it abundantly clear that we need to invest heavily in renewables and EVs, maybe even a nice nuclear plant.
Nice to see that they can’t connect trump’s war in Iran to skyrocketing prices. Some real fuckin geniuses there who “speak for the country” . I’d say even 10 year old or a crow could connect trump to the fuel price increases.
All those tractors and trucks should form a blockade outside Doonbeg and don’t let anyone in or out. Not that it would do much, but that’s the real cause of the problem.
Nothing happens in a vacuum – the cost of living crisis in Ireland is completely out of control. Fuel, Electricity, Groceries, Housing etc. is weighing on everyone, and our government has no answers. This protest was inevitable, and the fault lies with our elected officials, who behave more like caretakers than responsible governors. They are incapable of dealing with any sort of external change that affects the status quo, and have no solutions or plans besides hoping things get better somehow.
Give Trump more shamrocks quick Micheal! Anyone like to defend this joke of a Govt 😂😂😂
Love how all these groups are flat out using AI for every poster they make.
The chaos once the schools are back Monday will be outrageous.