He’s not wrong. If Ukraine wants to join the European Union, it needs to adapt its laws regarding minority protections up to EU standards.
Contrary_Kind on
What “minority rights” is he talking about?
greenest_alien on
They have all the rights anybody else has and more.
kardfogK on
There are laws that target minority languages in education (mostly hungarians and russians all rhx to orban and putin), so he is not wrong. But obviously the ukrainan newsource will have a problem with that
mekolayn on
Well, good thing that we don’t have to do anything then as Hungarian has full protections
Sudden-Awareness-820 on
I get the conflict, it’s rooted in the two countries’ shared history. Hopefully Magyar and Zelensky can find some middle ground. This is a charged issue on both sides, but let’s wait and see before passing judgment.
LaurestineHUN on
Just make an exception of school funding ban for schools with non-Ukrainian as primary instructional language that covers all EU-state official languages. Poland, Romania, Hungary happy, Russian still excluded.
Also give designated ‘Ukrainian as second language with Hungarian base’ teachers into those schools, with specific curriculum, don’t just expect regular Ukrainian teachers with same-for-everyone curriculum to just work.
Useless-Napkin on
> Be Hungary
> get millions of funds from EU
> openly align with anti EU entities like MAGA America and Putinist Russia
> a new election is about to change the government
> hopium.png
> the new guy starts with making demands towards a war stricken country
Damn why is Hungary like this?
VMK_1991 on
Great, russland war 2.0 in 50-ish years.
S0ulDr4ke on
Honestly it depends on the rights granted but this seems like a good compromise. The problem was Orban trying to build towards their independence and them joining Hungary, minority rights depending on their gravity seem fine.
There is however always a danger to this as countries like to use these rights as a crowbar to destabilise the country itself.
Still I see this as an actual possibility.
Ambrant on
As long as the agreement is bilateral sure
blueroseinwinter on
Popcorn time!
I405CA on
This has been a wedge issue for Orban and helped him with his efforts to portray Ukraine as a threat to Hungary.
Magyar needs to address this in order to retain credibility with the voters who he flipped.
Magyar wants to shift negative public attention away from Ukraine and to Russia. He surely must recognize that Russia poses an ongoing threat, and may believe that addressing this will help him to get there.
NiceGuyArthas on
I think they have plenty of rights already given that there are many cases where children in 5th grade studying in Transcarpathia barely know Ukrainian language
stenlis on
Is he starting his relationship with demands? How about returning the gold the Hungarians stole from Ukraine just a month ago?
Quasarrion on
It should be solved by EU help. We are all Europeans on the same continent, lose these petty things and prosper.
drugosrbijanac on
I see no issue here, Hungarians in Vojvodina, in Serbia have their guaranteed autonomy rights, just like Slovakians and other minorities.
Objective_Cod4149 on
Not even 1 day has passed…
vikentii_krapka on
Will Hungary do the same for Ukrainians in Hungary?
Darth486 on
I lived in Ukrainian part with significant Hungarian minority. Fellas had their own schools with lessons primarly in Hungarian. Most signs in the town/village were doubled with Ukrainian and Hungarian names. In fact my uncles wife is from the Hungarian minority and she and her kids had zero shits with Ukrainian government.
I kindly ask someone to tell me what exactly is the problem that Hungarian minority is facing in Ukraine ?
bandita07 on
Doing this would make the far right fascist groups weaker. To be honest without these far right nazis in Europe it would be simpler to keep the countries united and forgive our past problems..
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I mean yeah
He’s not wrong. If Ukraine wants to join the European Union, it needs to adapt its laws regarding minority protections up to EU standards.
What “minority rights” is he talking about?
They have all the rights anybody else has and more.
There are laws that target minority languages in education (mostly hungarians and russians all rhx to orban and putin), so he is not wrong. But obviously the ukrainan newsource will have a problem with that
Well, good thing that we don’t have to do anything then as Hungarian has full protections
I get the conflict, it’s rooted in the two countries’ shared history. Hopefully Magyar and Zelensky can find some middle ground. This is a charged issue on both sides, but let’s wait and see before passing judgment.
Just make an exception of school funding ban for schools with non-Ukrainian as primary instructional language that covers all EU-state official languages. Poland, Romania, Hungary happy, Russian still excluded.
Also give designated ‘Ukrainian as second language with Hungarian base’ teachers into those schools, with specific curriculum, don’t just expect regular Ukrainian teachers with same-for-everyone curriculum to just work.
> Be Hungary
> get millions of funds from EU
> openly align with anti EU entities like MAGA America and Putinist Russia
> a new election is about to change the government
> hopium.png
> the new guy starts with making demands towards a war stricken country
Damn why is Hungary like this?
Great, russland war 2.0 in 50-ish years.
Honestly it depends on the rights granted but this seems like a good compromise. The problem was Orban trying to build towards their independence and them joining Hungary, minority rights depending on their gravity seem fine.
There is however always a danger to this as countries like to use these rights as a crowbar to destabilise the country itself.
Still I see this as an actual possibility.
As long as the agreement is bilateral sure
Popcorn time!
This has been a wedge issue for Orban and helped him with his efforts to portray Ukraine as a threat to Hungary.
Magyar needs to address this in order to retain credibility with the voters who he flipped.
Magyar wants to shift negative public attention away from Ukraine and to Russia. He surely must recognize that Russia poses an ongoing threat, and may believe that addressing this will help him to get there.
I think they have plenty of rights already given that there are many cases where children in 5th grade studying in Transcarpathia barely know Ukrainian language
Is he starting his relationship with demands? How about returning the gold the Hungarians stole from Ukraine just a month ago?
It should be solved by EU help. We are all Europeans on the same continent, lose these petty things and prosper.
I see no issue here, Hungarians in Vojvodina, in Serbia have their guaranteed autonomy rights, just like Slovakians and other minorities.
Not even 1 day has passed…
Will Hungary do the same for Ukrainians in Hungary?
I lived in Ukrainian part with significant Hungarian minority. Fellas had their own schools with lessons primarly in Hungarian. Most signs in the town/village were doubled with Ukrainian and Hungarian names. In fact my uncles wife is from the Hungarian minority and she and her kids had zero shits with Ukrainian government.
I kindly ask someone to tell me what exactly is the problem that Hungarian minority is facing in Ukraine ?
Doing this would make the far right fascist groups weaker. To be honest without these far right nazis in Europe it would be simpler to keep the countries united and forgive our past problems..