This just reads like the bitter wishes of someone annoyed that they didn’t win the raffle.
>Under the pilot scheme, 2,000 artists received €325 per week from September 2022 to February 2026. Successful applicants were randomly chosen from about 8,000 applications.
Better luck next time, don’t be a dick.
MaryLouGoodbyeHeart on
This article appears to be entirely based on two letters sent to the Minister about the scheme. We don’t know who these are from, we don’t know whether the people are even artists other than they say they are and the journalist was given the letters in an FOI.
We don’t know if those people’s claims are true at all. Insofar as you can judge the assertions made the first point about increased precariousness because others have support is pretty stupid.
Freedom of Information is great, but it needs good journalists or it’s a waste of everyone’s time. Using it to punish an article in which you try to insinuate a groundswell of opinion in a community from two letters, that may be from total cranks or morons, sent to a Department is not good journalism.
caisdara on
The lack of any kind of supervision or monitoring does seem silly. How do we actually know if it’s generating art.
Ultimately this feels like the government trying to buy support from a group who will never support them.
theunemployedactor on
Well yeah a small pilot program is inherently segregated … its a limited number of people. Every single scheme where you give anyone anything, is exploitable its just about finding the best value auditing and enforcement to keep that to a minimum.
Overall this kind of scheme allows people to make a living in the arts and not have to go into a part or full time job to supplement themselves, and can keep providing their art to the community. Dont let dipshits convince that a maybe is worth killing off something like this.
RobotIcHead on
The headline is overly harsh for the problem that is presented. If there is no monitoring or even mentoring in the scheme that could end up being a problem.
qwerty_1965 on
All artists who are drawing the artist dole should be subject to an audit every year but done somewhat randomly lest an artist cobble together something just for the inspection.
Ed_the_Led_Man on
I know a complete gobshite on the old scheme , part time artist at best , refuses most gigs thrown at him and plays the same songs wrote 10 years ago
Needs a better robust in person interview system, but even then , rather see this funding go towards lower starting up costs for all artists. As an artist, public bodies paying a select few because they think they have gods gift to the world to give when they haven’t made it already seems like giving into people’s entitlement. I am happy if I never make it or make money, but fuck am I passionate, is just rather the cost were down, it was easier to set up events outside private venue gougers and it was easier to network.
Public funded non profit cheap – rehearsal spaces , galleries, workshops, venues … All for this , even allow better booking of public spaces for events (fuck all street parties / concerts here)
More art will get out there with these ideas than paying free money to a rake of people and hoping a bunch of chancers don’t fudge there way in to mega dole (which of course happened). Yes I’ll still apply tho , because, it’s still better than nothing
MrBulwark on
Why is this a news article? Irish Times taking the piss.
Fearless_Respond_123 on
It’s very poor form of the Irish Times to publish a very biased, unresearched article. They pride themselves on being a paper of integrity, but this is the very opposite and only serves to promote distrust and ill feeling.
CCFCEIGHTYFOUR on
Come the next recession and decline in public finances, this will be one of the first schemes on the chopping block.
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This just reads like the bitter wishes of someone annoyed that they didn’t win the raffle.
>Under the pilot scheme, 2,000 artists received €325 per week from September 2022 to February 2026. Successful applicants were randomly chosen from about 8,000 applications.
Better luck next time, don’t be a dick.
This article appears to be entirely based on two letters sent to the Minister about the scheme. We don’t know who these are from, we don’t know whether the people are even artists other than they say they are and the journalist was given the letters in an FOI.
We don’t know if those people’s claims are true at all. Insofar as you can judge the assertions made the first point about increased precariousness because others have support is pretty stupid.
Freedom of Information is great, but it needs good journalists or it’s a waste of everyone’s time. Using it to punish an article in which you try to insinuate a groundswell of opinion in a community from two letters, that may be from total cranks or morons, sent to a Department is not good journalism.
The lack of any kind of supervision or monitoring does seem silly. How do we actually know if it’s generating art.
Ultimately this feels like the government trying to buy support from a group who will never support them.
Well yeah a small pilot program is inherently segregated … its a limited number of people. Every single scheme where you give anyone anything, is exploitable its just about finding the best value auditing and enforcement to keep that to a minimum.
Overall this kind of scheme allows people to make a living in the arts and not have to go into a part or full time job to supplement themselves, and can keep providing their art to the community. Dont let dipshits convince that a maybe is worth killing off something like this.
The headline is overly harsh for the problem that is presented. If there is no monitoring or even mentoring in the scheme that could end up being a problem.
All artists who are drawing the artist dole should be subject to an audit every year but done somewhat randomly lest an artist cobble together something just for the inspection.
I know a complete gobshite on the old scheme , part time artist at best , refuses most gigs thrown at him and plays the same songs wrote 10 years ago
Needs a better robust in person interview system, but even then , rather see this funding go towards lower starting up costs for all artists. As an artist, public bodies paying a select few because they think they have gods gift to the world to give when they haven’t made it already seems like giving into people’s entitlement. I am happy if I never make it or make money, but fuck am I passionate, is just rather the cost were down, it was easier to set up events outside private venue gougers and it was easier to network.
Public funded non profit cheap – rehearsal spaces , galleries, workshops, venues … All for this , even allow better booking of public spaces for events (fuck all street parties / concerts here)
More art will get out there with these ideas than paying free money to a rake of people and hoping a bunch of chancers don’t fudge there way in to mega dole (which of course happened). Yes I’ll still apply tho , because, it’s still better than nothing
Why is this a news article? Irish Times taking the piss.
It’s very poor form of the Irish Times to publish a very biased, unresearched article. They pride themselves on being a paper of integrity, but this is the very opposite and only serves to promote distrust and ill feeling.
Come the next recession and decline in public finances, this will be one of the first schemes on the chopping block.