The important bit:
> First, it is user-friendly. You download the app. You set it up with your passport or ID card. You then prove your age when accessing online services. Second, it respects the highest privacy standards in the world. Users will prove their age without revealing any other personal information. Put simply, it is completely anonymous: users cannot be tracked. Third, the app works on any device – phone, tablet, computer, you name it. And, finally, it is fully open source – everyone can check the code. This means that our partner countries can also use it. This is very important that this can be used by our global partners.
silentspectator27 on
So, how long do you guys think until there is a data breach? I give it a year.
EDIT: I know it`s supposedly privacy friendly, I just don`t trust the EU in terms of privacy recently.
UndahwearBruh on
No thanks, “Executive Vice-President”
Any-Original-6113 on
Every time I hear about this, I remember that saying: “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Filias9 on
Will they do something with social networks? If they thing they are so toxic?
Adam_Neverwas on
Yeah, yeah. It’s all for the greater good and everything, but i don’t want to thrash palantir, meta and google track me. They’re building up behavioral DBs, and trainig ai on us. Thiel and these billionaires are completely out of reality.
riffraff on
I think this is *almost* the best they could do (once it’s decided that age verification is something to solve via server side verification of client credentials, which is debatable).
But it still requires users to run Android and iPhone, which imo sucks.
RSCA4EVER on
Funny how in europe a president is a dictatorial bitch nobody ever voted for.
RSCA4EVER on
Prove your age when accessing content = we know who you are and what you said.
Haunting_Switch3463 on
The bureaucratic super power strikes again. 💪
Fluffy-Republic8610 on
Well her little speech quotes in this thread makes it sound good. You have to have a passport or Id card to get yourself out of being treated as if you’re a child..and all children are automatically kept safe from particular content because everyone is treated as if they are a child until they verify their age with their identity. That’s the right order to do it in.
There will be a lot of work in the avoidance of kids being able to impersonate adults. I can imagine the app being able to see if one is / passport is being used to create more than one online identity. That will stop kids scanning their parents or cousins id document when it has already been used before.
But if a kid steals their grandparents passport or Id to create an online profile… How would they spot the fraud if the grandparent isn’t online? Not with facial scanning. Maybe with age cohert analysis of online activities against the id producing a list of suspicious online identifies and having the ability to freeze someones identify to force them to reverify it in a less bypassable way, like using a national service like the post office, or local govt office etc. they would also need the tech giant to help them catch suspicious age cohert activity. It could get messy.
Also, I see problems with determining the age of a child for services like Roblox which are allowed to serve kids different things at different kids ages. Face based age estimates aren’t a good tech. And not all kids are going to have passports or ids in all member states.
If it works it will set the international standard.
IchLiebeKleber on
>The amount of time our children spend looking at screens has never been so high.
I am truly astounded that she just assumes we all know “and obviously that is a bad thing”.
Why, why, why would it be an inherently bad thing that children look at screens?! There are lots of great and interesting things people (including children) can do with screens.
12DecX2002 on
Users will probe their age without revealing anything else. No except your passport, full name and picture. But nothing else!
singingtechnomage on
Cool.
No.
Skeng_in_Suit on
If I were homeless, I’d trade ID card verification token for a few bucks. Could make thousands
bonqen on
I keep seeing posts about how the EU is turning into China because of this, but if you read about how it actually works, this is completely fine. Stop flipping out already.
Captain_Ambiguous on
I’m sorry who asked for this? Other nations are putting people on the moon, developing new semiconductors, next generation AI models. We get bottlecaps that drip into your face and this. Very cool
DonQuixotee96 on
How will this work each country has to decide which apps,sites they want to restrict?
rudeee4 on
The moment I have to provide an ID to use the internet, I’m voting for an EU exit. You can keep your China-like surveillance state.
Extreme996 on
No.
jg119972 on
Yeah, no thanks i refuse to give my id for anything apart from goverment services anything else is off limits from ever using id verification considering the current climate with cyberwarfare this is gonna be one of the top targets to get information on EU citizens, an orwelian dystopia and where more then ever your information will be all over for all to see (and no i have no place online where there are pics of me or any other relevant data that can be used to target me in precise details)
-_GIZMO_ on
Does it work on custom roms and phones with unlocked bootloader?
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The important bit:
> First, it is user-friendly. You download the app. You set it up with your passport or ID card. You then prove your age when accessing online services. Second, it respects the highest privacy standards in the world. Users will prove their age without revealing any other personal information. Put simply, it is completely anonymous: users cannot be tracked. Third, the app works on any device – phone, tablet, computer, you name it. And, finally, it is fully open source – everyone can check the code. This means that our partner countries can also use it. This is very important that this can be used by our global partners.
So, how long do you guys think until there is a data breach? I give it a year.
EDIT: I know it`s supposedly privacy friendly, I just don`t trust the EU in terms of privacy recently.
No thanks, “Executive Vice-President”
Every time I hear about this, I remember that saying: “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Will they do something with social networks? If they thing they are so toxic?
Yeah, yeah. It’s all for the greater good and everything, but i don’t want to thrash palantir, meta and google track me. They’re building up behavioral DBs, and trainig ai on us. Thiel and these billionaires are completely out of reality.
I think this is *almost* the best they could do (once it’s decided that age verification is something to solve via server side verification of client credentials, which is debatable).
But it still requires users to run Android and iPhone, which imo sucks.
Funny how in europe a president is a dictatorial bitch nobody ever voted for.
Prove your age when accessing content = we know who you are and what you said.
The bureaucratic super power strikes again. 💪
Well her little speech quotes in this thread makes it sound good. You have to have a passport or Id card to get yourself out of being treated as if you’re a child..and all children are automatically kept safe from particular content because everyone is treated as if they are a child until they verify their age with their identity. That’s the right order to do it in.
There will be a lot of work in the avoidance of kids being able to impersonate adults. I can imagine the app being able to see if one is / passport is being used to create more than one online identity. That will stop kids scanning their parents or cousins id document when it has already been used before.
But if a kid steals their grandparents passport or Id to create an online profile… How would they spot the fraud if the grandparent isn’t online? Not with facial scanning. Maybe with age cohert analysis of online activities against the id producing a list of suspicious online identifies and having the ability to freeze someones identify to force them to reverify it in a less bypassable way, like using a national service like the post office, or local govt office etc. they would also need the tech giant to help them catch suspicious age cohert activity. It could get messy.
Also, I see problems with determining the age of a child for services like Roblox which are allowed to serve kids different things at different kids ages. Face based age estimates aren’t a good tech. And not all kids are going to have passports or ids in all member states.
If it works it will set the international standard.
>The amount of time our children spend looking at screens has never been so high.
I am truly astounded that she just assumes we all know “and obviously that is a bad thing”.
Why, why, why would it be an inherently bad thing that children look at screens?! There are lots of great and interesting things people (including children) can do with screens.
Users will probe their age without revealing anything else. No except your passport, full name and picture. But nothing else!
Cool.
No.
If I were homeless, I’d trade ID card verification token for a few bucks. Could make thousands
I keep seeing posts about how the EU is turning into China because of this, but if you read about how it actually works, this is completely fine. Stop flipping out already.
I’m sorry who asked for this? Other nations are putting people on the moon, developing new semiconductors, next generation AI models. We get bottlecaps that drip into your face and this. Very cool
How will this work each country has to decide which apps,sites they want to restrict?
The moment I have to provide an ID to use the internet, I’m voting for an EU exit. You can keep your China-like surveillance state.
No.
Yeah, no thanks i refuse to give my id for anything apart from goverment services anything else is off limits from ever using id verification considering the current climate with cyberwarfare this is gonna be one of the top targets to get information on EU citizens, an orwelian dystopia and where more then ever your information will be all over for all to see (and no i have no place online where there are pics of me or any other relevant data that can be used to target me in precise details)
Does it work on custom roms and phones with unlocked bootloader?
making the app open source seems to have no effect whatsoever, since nobody will even bother to check the source code, and will just act outraged for no reason. proof is this comment section, full of people that didn’t even bother to read through the [architecture](https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-doc-technical-specification/blob/main/docs/architecture-and-technical-specifications.md), much less the implementation
this is how EU protects your privacy .
can’t wait to be tracked even more …