Its true. Pity he didn’t clarify this when in charge
1993blah on
He’s not wrong, there seems to be a perception in rural Ireland that office workers are lesser and don’t contribute to the country
kaahooters on
90% of all food produced by farms in Ireland is for the export market, urban dewlers are paying taxes to subsidise farmers on feed equipment fuel so they can export the food and claim there feeding the country. There feeding a country yes, but not this one.
AffectionateSwan5129 on
Capital cities across Europe have the concentration of high paid services job like finance and tech. Of course they pay for everyone’s lunches. They also pay for a much higher cost of living.
_Druss_ on
Punch down, sell off everything, regret it in the next decade.
FFG textbook BS.
Tomaskerry on
Unpopular opinion but I like him.
Too honest for his good.
Potential_Ad6169 on
Because of their reckless tax base. Whilst keeping the housing crisis limited in Dublin’s and let run rampant around the rest of the country. They certainly have their ways of vindicating themselves
Snoo-86513 on
It was FF and FG led councils and governments that made a disgrace of our planning system so you’ll forgive me if I care little what a FG neoliberal stalwart has to say about this issue.
Farmers are the most catered to people in Europe. You wouldn’t know it based on how they act when something doesnt go their way.
I hate farmers I hate farmers I hate farmers I hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmers!!
mindthegoat_redux on
Wow, after numerous years of disliking him, his politics, his punching down on working class stiffs, his disdain for gentlemanly parliamentary behaviour, his lickspittle attitude towards any other world leaders, we finally agree on something.
TheIrishBread on
Yes Varadkar, that’s what happens when you concentrate literally everything in three cities and leave the rest of us to fend for ourselves.
clewbays on
American multinationals are paying all the bills. The likes of Abbvie have there main operations in Sligo and Westport. But their head office from where their taxes are filed is in Dublin.
You remove the American multinationals then everyone including Dublin is being subsidised. You include them then it appears like Dublin and cork where there taxes are filed regardless of where the plants are actually located then it appears like they are subsidising people.
locksymania on
Sometimes, I really do think that Varadkar is somewhere on the spectrum, because for a clearly very intelligent man, he can be *incredibly* gauche.
Spiritual_Mall_3140 on
Not wrong. We’ve only 2 counties that aren’t met receivers of tax money. Those are cork and Dublin.
If tax was distributed proportional to payment much of rural Ireland would have next to zero services.
SwamperOgre on
Except the Posh areas like where he’s from who just siphon the taxpayers money for their vanity projects.
Why do you think the Green line always looks polished and clean whilst the Red line always looks worn and dirty?
JohnC_92 on
Farmer bad
Youngfolk21 on
Shut up, Leo! He hates rural Ireland. Your ma is from Wexford.
He said something very disparaging about the rural county my Mum’s from.
FrogOnABus on
These are the lads who sneer “he fixed the roads” at you online.
Craicriture on
He’s going to annoy people making that point and I think he’s making it too bluntly and in a way that stirs urban vs rural divides rather than bringing them together, but I think Ireland frankly needs to get over itself sometimes too. We were a rural society decades ago. There were cattle markets in the middle of what is now sophisticated housing in hipster parts of Dublin – cows being herded on urban streets was a common part of life until the early 1970s.
However, things changed, the economy grew and urbanised and the reality of life now is most of us live in urban areas, cities and their hinterlands and most of us work in sectors that have little to do with farming and agriculture and most of our income is coming from hosting the pharma and tech sector, something we’ve been doing since the 1960s. It’s not new – this is what Ireland is now. We still like to pretend it’s Dev’s vision of “Comely maidens dancing at the crossroads.” That was a fantasy then and it’s still a fantasy now, even more so.
I think we do ourselves a huge degree of damage and disservice by setting up dichotomy and divide and failing to recognise reality. We also tend to completely overlook and undermine the cities outside of Dublin and towns by this “dublin vs down the country” mentality which is another thread but it links to this obsession with culchie vs city that seems to just bubble up here all the time. It’s bad for urban Ireland and it’s bad for rural because we are basing policy and politics on a place that doesn’t exist, while undermining the place that we actually live in.
reasonablejim2000 on
I mean he’s probably right, but for a FG man and former Taoiseach to basically say fuck farmers is mad.
Gangsta_Grievous on
Leo, there’s a whole world of possibilities when you drive past the M50 instead of around it!
Crassus87 on
Tell you what, all the urban areas keep the money they produce and all the rural areas keep the food they produce and we’ll all see who does better out of that arrangement.
Eviladhesive on
Don’t know if this is the type of rhetoric that’ll facilitate sensible and reasonable solutions.
But hey, people are talking about you again, and that’s the point, right Leo?
EllieLou80 on
Not to defend Leo because he’s a knob head, but during the protests many farmers were stating they paid the bills of Ireland and they were in control. This was during interviews on virgin media news at 5.30pm and the 6pm rte news. So I suppose what he’s saying is that rural Ireland like farmers do not pay the bills of Ireland it is in fact urban areas, correcting the false narrative that the farmers believe.
Should urban areas be concentrated as they are, no but that’s another discussion.
Call-of-the-lost-one on
Does anyone else get a little vomit in their mouths when this tool speaks
Apprehensive_Gur2295 on
I do agree with a lot of the comments , but I do believe Leo also raises a lot of fair points. There are a lot of government subsidies and tax breaks for farmers and rural communities. The opposition to mercusor was for the benefit of farmers but to the disadvantage of the country as a whole . To anyone who has not listened to the podcast – I’d encourage them so you can hear what he is and isn’t saying .
tictaxtho on
Well yeah half the workers in urban areas probably live in rural areas
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Its true. Pity he didn’t clarify this when in charge
He’s not wrong, there seems to be a perception in rural Ireland that office workers are lesser and don’t contribute to the country
90% of all food produced by farms in Ireland is for the export market, urban dewlers are paying taxes to subsidise farmers on feed equipment fuel so they can export the food and claim there feeding the country. There feeding a country yes, but not this one.
Capital cities across Europe have the concentration of high paid services job like finance and tech. Of course they pay for everyone’s lunches. They also pay for a much higher cost of living.
Punch down, sell off everything, regret it in the next decade.
FFG textbook BS.
Unpopular opinion but I like him.
Too honest for his good.
Because of their reckless tax base. Whilst keeping the housing crisis limited in Dublin’s and let run rampant around the rest of the country. They certainly have their ways of vindicating themselves
It was FF and FG led councils and governments that made a disgrace of our planning system so you’ll forgive me if I care little what a FG neoliberal stalwart has to say about this issue.
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Farmers are the most catered to people in Europe. You wouldn’t know it based on how they act when something doesnt go their way.
I hate farmers I hate farmers I hate farmers I hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmersI hate farmers!!
Wow, after numerous years of disliking him, his politics, his punching down on working class stiffs, his disdain for gentlemanly parliamentary behaviour, his lickspittle attitude towards any other world leaders, we finally agree on something.
Yes Varadkar, that’s what happens when you concentrate literally everything in three cities and leave the rest of us to fend for ourselves.
American multinationals are paying all the bills. The likes of Abbvie have there main operations in Sligo and Westport. But their head office from where their taxes are filed is in Dublin.
You remove the American multinationals then everyone including Dublin is being subsidised. You include them then it appears like Dublin and cork where there taxes are filed regardless of where the plants are actually located then it appears like they are subsidising people.
Sometimes, I really do think that Varadkar is somewhere on the spectrum, because for a clearly very intelligent man, he can be *incredibly* gauche.
Not wrong. We’ve only 2 counties that aren’t met receivers of tax money. Those are cork and Dublin.
If tax was distributed proportional to payment much of rural Ireland would have next to zero services.
Except the Posh areas like where he’s from who just siphon the taxpayers money for their vanity projects.
Why do you think the Green line always looks polished and clean whilst the Red line always looks worn and dirty?
Farmer bad
Shut up, Leo! He hates rural Ireland. Your ma is from Wexford.
He said something very disparaging about the rural county my Mum’s from.
These are the lads who sneer “he fixed the roads” at you online.
He’s going to annoy people making that point and I think he’s making it too bluntly and in a way that stirs urban vs rural divides rather than bringing them together, but I think Ireland frankly needs to get over itself sometimes too. We were a rural society decades ago. There were cattle markets in the middle of what is now sophisticated housing in hipster parts of Dublin – cows being herded on urban streets was a common part of life until the early 1970s.
However, things changed, the economy grew and urbanised and the reality of life now is most of us live in urban areas, cities and their hinterlands and most of us work in sectors that have little to do with farming and agriculture and most of our income is coming from hosting the pharma and tech sector, something we’ve been doing since the 1960s. It’s not new – this is what Ireland is now. We still like to pretend it’s Dev’s vision of “Comely maidens dancing at the crossroads.” That was a fantasy then and it’s still a fantasy now, even more so.
I think we do ourselves a huge degree of damage and disservice by setting up dichotomy and divide and failing to recognise reality. We also tend to completely overlook and undermine the cities outside of Dublin and towns by this “dublin vs down the country” mentality which is another thread but it links to this obsession with culchie vs city that seems to just bubble up here all the time. It’s bad for urban Ireland and it’s bad for rural because we are basing policy and politics on a place that doesn’t exist, while undermining the place that we actually live in.
I mean he’s probably right, but for a FG man and former Taoiseach to basically say fuck farmers is mad.
Leo, there’s a whole world of possibilities when you drive past the M50 instead of around it!
Tell you what, all the urban areas keep the money they produce and all the rural areas keep the food they produce and we’ll all see who does better out of that arrangement.
Don’t know if this is the type of rhetoric that’ll facilitate sensible and reasonable solutions.
But hey, people are talking about you again, and that’s the point, right Leo?
Not to defend Leo because he’s a knob head, but during the protests many farmers were stating they paid the bills of Ireland and they were in control. This was during interviews on virgin media news at 5.30pm and the 6pm rte news. So I suppose what he’s saying is that rural Ireland like farmers do not pay the bills of Ireland it is in fact urban areas, correcting the false narrative that the farmers believe.
Should urban areas be concentrated as they are, no but that’s another discussion.
Does anyone else get a little vomit in their mouths when this tool speaks
I do agree with a lot of the comments , but I do believe Leo also raises a lot of fair points. There are a lot of government subsidies and tax breaks for farmers and rural communities. The opposition to mercusor was for the benefit of farmers but to the disadvantage of the country as a whole . To anyone who has not listened to the podcast – I’d encourage them so you can hear what he is and isn’t saying .
Well yeah half the workers in urban areas probably live in rural areas