Magyar is a centre-right politician at fondest. Why is the left building a false narrative instead of having a real argument?
kahrei on
no, none of this signals any of that, Ribera is just spinnig the story his way.
EDIT:*her, her way.
ThrowAwayYetAgain878 on
Nope. At best, it’s a game of whack-a-mole. Orban is one autocrat who (at least temporarily) dug his own grave, but that doesn’t change the overall picture.
tatagami on
Current parliament in Hungary is 3 parties: proEU right, proRussia/USA right and far-right. What left return? Left didn’t qualify to run, centre left/centre didn’t reach 5% to get into parliament. Where is the return?
ScepticalEconomist on
I do hope this happens but we’ve got a long way
GonzAnt on
Not going to happen while the left prioritizes the culture war.
Singer-Informal on
No, we still have Afd in Germany and Marie le Pen in France. Ultra right has not even come to power. Both EU critical
SumoHeadbutt on
Creating mega gtoups lumping of all Left or all Right into groups deepens political polarization which is terrible all round
Polarization which destroys nuance, common sense, cross-overs
Now they are creating looney groups of Far-Right and Far-Left which I have zero interest in
Le Pen and Orban can eat poop, but also Lula and Mélanchon can also eat poop as well as
Whole-Cookie-7754 on
No, not at all. We want pro EU and anti immigration in most countries right now.
Eishockey on
Why do people think Magyar is left? Completely uninformed.
Bigt-1337 on
Far right leading in Germany and Austria. And Bulgaria is probably voting pro Russian today. Wishful thinking imo.
Zeebaars on
Certainly not. Populists are having setbacks but their voters are by and large opting for center right alternatives in the elections we’ve seen. “The left” is still not winning anything anywhere.
Coupe368 on
Its not the left that is resurging, its the people rejecting anyone under the influence of Russia.
My understanding is that Orban was replaced by a guy known as Orban 2.0; only giant difference is the lack of Russian influence and obvious corruption.
That’s not a dramatic shift to the left, if it is please explain it to me.
Every politician in Europe should be cutting off all Russian influence if they want to survive.
Putin is poison.
Chrischi91 on
lol i Wish. Germany it looks the AfD is going to be the strongest Party.
InformationNew66 on
Orban didn’t lose to a leftist.
Breinbaard on
Extreme rights loss does not equal left wins. So dumb and simplistic.
Expensive-Phase310 on
Left in Hungary, read up about the new HU government (hint still very right) Meloni still has a working government. Slovenia turned right two weeks ago. So I would say no return for the left yet.
coalescence2071 on
The Hungarian Tisza party and Peter Magyar is more to the left in terms of actual social policies (healthcare, affordable education, social security) than the American Democratic Party which is against Medicare for all and in the hands of the US billionaires and large corporations, serving whatever “capitalist “ agenda corporations push for. Still People call the Democrats a leftist party and now try to stamp Tisza as a center right, are not looking at actual evidence what these parties are standing for or doing.
kkania on
At best it’s the center right coming back from so far eight it was almost a horseshoe to the extreme left. The actual left in Europe is currently DOA.
Nemeszlekmeg on
Nope, Orban loss just means the fight for liberalism can *start*, nothing has been won and literally the only thing the left could do in Hungary is *not run in the elections.* It’s still screwed up for EU.
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Magyar is a centre-right politician at fondest. Why is the left building a false narrative instead of having a real argument?
no, none of this signals any of that, Ribera is just spinnig the story his way.
EDIT:*her, her way.
Nope. At best, it’s a game of whack-a-mole. Orban is one autocrat who (at least temporarily) dug his own grave, but that doesn’t change the overall picture.
Current parliament in Hungary is 3 parties: proEU right, proRussia/USA right and far-right. What left return? Left didn’t qualify to run, centre left/centre didn’t reach 5% to get into parliament. Where is the return?
I do hope this happens but we’ve got a long way
Not going to happen while the left prioritizes the culture war.
No, we still have Afd in Germany and Marie le Pen in France. Ultra right has not even come to power. Both EU critical
Creating mega gtoups lumping of all Left or all Right into groups deepens political polarization which is terrible all round
Polarization which destroys nuance, common sense, cross-overs
Now they are creating looney groups of Far-Right and Far-Left which I have zero interest in
Le Pen and Orban can eat poop, but also Lula and Mélanchon can also eat poop as well as
No, not at all. We want pro EU and anti immigration in most countries right now.
Why do people think Magyar is left? Completely uninformed.
Far right leading in Germany and Austria. And Bulgaria is probably voting pro Russian today. Wishful thinking imo.
Certainly not. Populists are having setbacks but their voters are by and large opting for center right alternatives in the elections we’ve seen. “The left” is still not winning anything anywhere.
Its not the left that is resurging, its the people rejecting anyone under the influence of Russia.
My understanding is that Orban was replaced by a guy known as Orban 2.0; only giant difference is the lack of Russian influence and obvious corruption.
That’s not a dramatic shift to the left, if it is please explain it to me.
Every politician in Europe should be cutting off all Russian influence if they want to survive.
Putin is poison.
lol i Wish. Germany it looks the AfD is going to be the strongest Party.
Orban didn’t lose to a leftist.
Extreme rights loss does not equal left wins. So dumb and simplistic.
Left in Hungary, read up about the new HU government (hint still very right) Meloni still has a working government. Slovenia turned right two weeks ago. So I would say no return for the left yet.
The Hungarian Tisza party and Peter Magyar is more to the left in terms of actual social policies (healthcare, affordable education, social security) than the American Democratic Party which is against Medicare for all and in the hands of the US billionaires and large corporations, serving whatever “capitalist “ agenda corporations push for. Still People call the Democrats a leftist party and now try to stamp Tisza as a center right, are not looking at actual evidence what these parties are standing for or doing.
At best it’s the center right coming back from so far eight it was almost a horseshoe to the extreme left. The actual left in Europe is currently DOA.
Nope, Orban loss just means the fight for liberalism can *start*, nothing has been won and literally the only thing the left could do in Hungary is *not run in the elections.* It’s still screwed up for EU.