We had this leaving another Italian airport last week. What a shambles it all is. Lucky the airline (Easyjet) agreed to delay departure by an hour. If it had left on time at least half the passengers would have missed it. And this was just for a single UK bound departure, the only one that morning.
I was thinking at the time *just as well it’s not Ryanair!* Although I do appreciate there are limits to what they can do, given schedules.
It wasn’t even the new EES machine that were the problem. There were plenty of those, queues were short and they took about 30 seonds each. It was the subsequent queuing up at a couple of manned desks to then retake all the same biometrics and make sure it matched what was registered at the machines, and then stamp the passports. All this took about 90 seconds per person.
Is this even how it’s _supposed_ to work? I thought after registering with the machines your data was kept for three years, and I assumed the process was then supposed to be smooth until that expired.
Of course, worth mentioning the stark asymmetry in all this, on arrival back to the UK, all EU passport holders joined same queue as UK natives along with a dozen or so other first world countries. *Who negotiated that!?*
IranianAlan on
Come on then, Any guesses who got the software contract for this shambles?
QueefInMyKisser on
Let’s hope they sort this before I go to Greece in the autumn. Otherwise I’ll steer clear of visiting the EU for now. Plenty of other countries I want to visit.
bobblebob100 on
Some figures for context, as the tabloids won’t
On average 145,000 passengers are flown to and from UK airports to Europe daily with Ryanair. Lets half that for only those coming back (where the issue lies)
Thats 72,500. Lets take a third off that again assuming some of those are EU nationals coming to the UK.Â
That leaves 48,000 UK citizens a day coming back to the UK. This article says 30 passengers were affected
Thats 0.06% of passengers affected daily
And of that 0.06% we dont know how many were late to check in, or were fannying around in the airport bar before going through passport control
gregbenson314 on
I flew from Milan Linate to Edinburgh yesterday morning with no major issues.Â
lemonherring on
Milan is fucking mad – queues for non-EU passengers taking an hour or more to get to passport control. I was there last weekend and felt so sorry for all the people freaking out because they were going to miss their flights, especially the long-haul ones.
Orpington_Oracle on
Was in Bologna to travel down to Florence for Palace last Thursday.
We got there all 3 of us had to scan our faces and fingers after a 30 min wait.
Then one of us was given a red sticker on their passport which meant he needed manual intervention via a border force agent. 2 flights full of people with 3 manned desks. Absolutely shit show. We waited over 90 mins for him to come through.
Fortunately on the way back it was pain free.
Plan accordingly if you have connecting travel arrangements. Lucky we built in slack into our schedule on the assumption flight might be late.
jonrobwil on
I used this last week. One time collecting of biometric data at the EES machine then the scanning of the passport at the egate and your in. Coming back you are not required to go to the biometric scanner as you are valid for three years. Just the egate and through.
isaacladboy on
I few to Spain on the 14th,
the 1st screen on the biometric thingy said “do you consent to having your biometric data stored under directive blah blah”
I just pressed no and was instructed to carry onto passport control.
wkavinsky on
Once again, none of this has anything to do with the (usually) shitty Ryanair, it’s all down to decisions made by Italian border police (refusing to process people until they’re flight has a boarding gate).
zippyzebra1 on
It’s early and bound to be teething problems. One thing in the Yank’s favour is no biometrics on departure unlike the EU
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We had this leaving another Italian airport last week. What a shambles it all is. Lucky the airline (Easyjet) agreed to delay departure by an hour. If it had left on time at least half the passengers would have missed it. And this was just for a single UK bound departure, the only one that morning.
I was thinking at the time *just as well it’s not Ryanair!* Although I do appreciate there are limits to what they can do, given schedules.
It wasn’t even the new EES machine that were the problem. There were plenty of those, queues were short and they took about 30 seonds each. It was the subsequent queuing up at a couple of manned desks to then retake all the same biometrics and make sure it matched what was registered at the machines, and then stamp the passports. All this took about 90 seconds per person.
Is this even how it’s _supposed_ to work? I thought after registering with the machines your data was kept for three years, and I assumed the process was then supposed to be smooth until that expired.
Of course, worth mentioning the stark asymmetry in all this, on arrival back to the UK, all EU passport holders joined same queue as UK natives along with a dozen or so other first world countries. *Who negotiated that!?*
Come on then, Any guesses who got the software contract for this shambles?
Let’s hope they sort this before I go to Greece in the autumn. Otherwise I’ll steer clear of visiting the EU for now. Plenty of other countries I want to visit.
Some figures for context, as the tabloids won’t
On average 145,000 passengers are flown to and from UK airports to Europe daily with Ryanair. Lets half that for only those coming back (where the issue lies)
Thats 72,500. Lets take a third off that again assuming some of those are EU nationals coming to the UK.Â
That leaves 48,000 UK citizens a day coming back to the UK. This article says 30 passengers were affected
Thats 0.06% of passengers affected daily
And of that 0.06% we dont know how many were late to check in, or were fannying around in the airport bar before going through passport control
I flew from Milan Linate to Edinburgh yesterday morning with no major issues.Â
Milan is fucking mad – queues for non-EU passengers taking an hour or more to get to passport control. I was there last weekend and felt so sorry for all the people freaking out because they were going to miss their flights, especially the long-haul ones.
Was in Bologna to travel down to Florence for Palace last Thursday.
We got there all 3 of us had to scan our faces and fingers after a 30 min wait.
Then one of us was given a red sticker on their passport which meant he needed manual intervention via a border force agent. 2 flights full of people with 3 manned desks. Absolutely shit show. We waited over 90 mins for him to come through.
Fortunately on the way back it was pain free.
Plan accordingly if you have connecting travel arrangements. Lucky we built in slack into our schedule on the assumption flight might be late.
I used this last week. One time collecting of biometric data at the EES machine then the scanning of the passport at the egate and your in. Coming back you are not required to go to the biometric scanner as you are valid for three years. Just the egate and through.
I few to Spain on the 14th,
the 1st screen on the biometric thingy said “do you consent to having your biometric data stored under directive blah blah”
I just pressed no and was instructed to carry onto passport control.
Once again, none of this has anything to do with the (usually) shitty Ryanair, it’s all down to decisions made by Italian border police (refusing to process people until they’re flight has a boarding gate).
It’s early and bound to be teething problems. One thing in the Yank’s favour is no biometrics on departure unlike the EU