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    Come americano, voglio conoscere The Troubles, la storia irlandese e l’indipendenza irlandese. Hai qualche suggerimento?


    Dopo molte ricerche online ho trovato questo libro, ma mi chiedevo se qualcuno qui ha qualche consiglio? Voglio capire tutto quello che posso. Come ho notato, l’Irlanda sembra essere sempre dalla parte giusta della storia, dove le ingiustizie accadono in tutto il mondo.

    Voglio anche condividere un pezzo di storia degli Stati Uniti che penso potrebbe piacerti. Nel 1847 la nazione Choctaw inviò 170 dollari per aiutare il popolo irlandese. I Choctaw sono appena sopravvissuti al loro genocidio chiamato The Trail of Tears. Sapevano cosa significava combattere un governo che cercava di ucciderli sistematicamente. C’è un monumento a Midleton, nella contea di Cork, per commemorare questa donazione. C’è un altro monumento a Tuskahoma, Oklahoma. Per commemorare il cameratismo tra le due grandi nazioni.

    Come un americano bianco che odia il proprio governo e si vergogna della storia del mio paese. Sento che è mio dovere studiare, imparare e condividere tutto ciò che posso sulla sanguinosa storia del mio paese. Per meglio evitare che accada di nuovo.

    Grazie per aver letto e condiviso i tuoi consigli!

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    1. cuchullain47474 on

      “Killing Thatcher” by Rory Carroll I’d say, it’s called something else in America I think

      Tim Pat Coogan has some shorter and some longer books that often focus on certain subjects like the IRA, 1916 Easter Rising, etc.
      He’d surely lean more Republican also (in an Irish sense of the word, not US political parties)

      Also I know people shit on Wikipedia but it’s a good resource to get a look at a subject and find what you’d be interested in diving deeper into by reading actual books later on too.

      Edit – in the States the book by Rory Carroll is called “There Will Be Fire”

    2. Vivid_Ice_2755 on

      The Dirty War by Martin Dillon. 

      Bandit Country by Toby Harden.
       
      The Yank by John Crawley 

      Nor Meekley Serve my time by H Block Prisoners 

      Theres also an incredible read called Special Category: IRA prisoners in English prisons 1&2 by Dr Ruan O Donnell

      They re a few books from a few different times and places throughout the conflict

       Guerilla days in Ireland by Tom Barry is a brilliant read about the war of independence 

    3. JurassicFab on

      The Troubles Podcast has some excellent info and great sources.

    5. fekoffwillya on

      So first, in Cork there is Kindred Spirits: Choctaw Native American Monument that honors what the Choctaw Nation did. As for history, Tim Pat Coogan would be the one stop shop. He has plenty of books written on many aspects of Irish history.

    7. PaddyMayonaise on

      I really enjoyed Say Nothing and Stakeknife’s Dirty War.

      Also Four Shots in the Night

    8. Hopeful-Remote9725 on

      If you can catch a documentary called ‘Voices from the Grave’ do, it’s based on the book by Ed Moloney. Based on oral interviews of Brendan Hughes, formerly of the Irish Republican Army, and David Ervine, formerly of the Ulster Volunteer Force, released after their death.

      It might help to learn more about the broad strokes of the conflict and then after that get into those oral testimonies that reflect the thoughts and feelings and experiences of those that joined the paramilitaries, Republican and Loyalist alike. So you have the context to understand it.

    9. cuchullain47474 on

      Your part about recognising the Great Hunger as an instrument of genocide makes me think you’d like “The Famine Plot” specifically about that subject, again shoutout to Tim Pat Coogan ftw

    10. dave-theRave on

      There’s a podcast, Cover, they have a brilliant series called Stakeknife. I’d highly recommend!

    14. Own-Pirate-8001 on

      A State in Denial by Margaret Urwin.

      It covers in great detail the collusion that went on between the British Army, RUC, UDA & UVF.

      It uses declassified British Army documents as sources.

      It’s well worth a read.

    15. The_Ruck_Inspector on

      Tim Pat Coogan. He has interviewed first hand a lot of people involved in the rising, the troubles, etc and his Dad was a prominent republican volunteer during the war of Independence, so he is a very good source. I like his writing and find his work engaging and informative.

    20. unsalted-butter on

      Say Nothing was hard to put down, really good book.

      The Next One Is For You by Ali Watkins is about IRA gun running operations in the United States, specifically around Philadelphia which is why I found it so interesting. It explores the impact Irish America had on the conflict on the Island. It might be more Ameri-centric than what you’re looking for but I recommend it when you have time.

    21. ps5ron on

      I think the troubles podcast is a good shout after a brief overview from wiki

    22. PanNationalistFront on

      I have that book. I thought it gave some good background on the troubles and what was happening throughout the decades. I couldn’t cope from about chapter 5 onwards as I was so angry. I grew up during the troubles and find it difficult to watch and read about it.

    24. BreadAndRoses44 on

      Not exclusively about the troubles, but “One man’s terrorist: A political history of the IRA” by Daniel Finn is a great book.

    26. silliusmaximusIV on

      I would read Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe which covers the troubles in the north. Amazing book.

      I would also give the Irish history a listen by Finn Dwyer. Short episodes on specific pieces of Irish history.

      Also I’d watch ‘the wind that shakes the barley’ and ‘Michael Collins’ – 2 favourites of mine

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