The EU poses a threat to US sovereignty? Ummm is that a typo?
PianistHairy9431 on
we were allies for so many years and no one complained, and now all of a sudden EU is a big problem. Sure, whatever you say. Classic right-wing divide and conquer politics.
VexedCanadian84 on
Somebody should ask people in Greenland about this.
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Skolloc753 on
> In [my book] “Rage and the Republic,” I discuss the dangers posed to the American republic this century by the rise of global governance systems like the EU.
Here is it, the money grift. *”Please buy my book”*.
> *The book explores how globalists planned to gradually get nations to yield their authority to the EU *
You mean the nations who willingly wants to joint he EU, has to uphold high democratic and human rights standards, can leave anytime and where in the very first treaties for the EU the demand for a more and more closer cooperation is very publicly tated … *for decades now*? That EU?
> Orban was controversial for his ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and his lack of support for Ukraine. He was also accused of authoritarianism and corruption.
Good Sir, you are missing a few important points: He was not accused of, he was actively participating it, by reworking the constitution, the courts, the media control. Furthermore his government actively workd in secret against the EU, including taking direct orders from Moscow and sharing confidential strategy meetings with Russian intelligence. Not to mention that was was not only lacking in support for Ukraine, he actively opposed any help for Ukraine, including the latest 90bn EUR bill.
> If the American Republic is to survive another 250 years, it must preserve key rights that the EU has been systematically destroying in Europe — freedom of speech, division of powers and political accountability of decision-makers.
Who again is suing the Atlantic for 250 million USD for calling the FBI director drunk?
SYL
WhatsRatingsPrecious on
Lunacy.
locksymania on
What a load of click baity nonsense.
nolnogax on
Man, the stuff that guy had been smoking must have been strong
Slephnirr on
At this point we should just stop posting any news outlet that clearly is not living in the same reality as the rest of the world. Especially *some* news outlets from the US do live in their own world and are hardly distinguishable from satire site.
Any kind of rational discussion is totally unfruitful if you argue based on fiction.
Wurschd on
just focus on the Pacific theater as you promised, thank you very much.
RapidoGoldenboy_75 on
🤣
Zdzisiu on
What xD
ReadyAndSalted on
This is a pretty incredible article, it reads like a parody that an EU citizen would write to make fun of Americans. I mean are they *seriously* going to lecture us about political accountability whilst they continue to do nothing about Epstein, despite being the epicentre of the whole thing? It reads like we’re being framed as the red scare 2.0.
Ok-Award-9542 on
This guy should fuck off and pay more attention to the problems in his own country.
Italiandude2022 on
Spent a couple minutes to read this bullshit article. It all boils down to the usual “EU globalists bad, they want to dismantle national states and establish a Bruxelles dictatorship”, and that Peter Magyar will bend down to Von Der Leyen and sell Hungary to the EU so that she can get rid of veto rights. All while praising the “American Republic” that stands against this unprecedent threat of this globalist dictatorship that wants to cancel all american freedoms.
Also, as usual, he cried about EU regulations against tech companies.
I get that this is an opinion article, but its a shitty opinion and no one asked for it, cause it has been repeated over and over for years now by populist far-right parties. They could try to yell about other things but they always choose to yap about the same things: EU bad, regulations bad, globalist elites controll us.
shatureg on
The enitre article is projection. Consider this:
>That is why, I believe, the EU is inherently unstable and likely to ultimately collapse.
>The EU has worked very hard to dismantle national sovereignty and identity in its member states. Historically, such collapses have been followed by different forms of tyranny.
>Whatever comes next — and I could be wrong in my pessimism about the EU — the U.S. must take seriously the threat that this global governance system poses to our own values and sovereignty.
In reality, it’s the United States that is both administering a global governance system (its informal American empire) and also edging closer to collapse with every consecutive administration. And it is the EU that needs to take the threat of the rising American tyranny more serious than it currently does.
serpenta on
>If the American Republic is to survive another 250 years, it must preserve key rights that the EU has been systematically destroying in Europe — freedom of speech, division of powers and political accountability of decision-makers.
BRUV! Stop projecting, it’s hurting my eyes.
EINFACH_NUR_DAEMLICH on
can we please ban this shitty propaganda website?
Infusion1999 on
It’s always projection from the fascists
TailleventCH on
It’s interesting to (try to) follow the reasoning.It starts with an interesting question on the relationship between a form of supranational authority and “traditional” states. Unsurprisingly, the answer totally lacks nuance but it could make for an interesting talking point.Then, without too much care for transition, it switches to how it could threaten US sovereignty by wishing to submit it to a “global governance system”.
At that stage, many readers may think it’s an allusion to larger private economical powers but it soon appears that US corporations are also victims of that “unaccountable” power.
It then turns back to EU which is apparently trying to destroy national identities. (I really someone can explain me how sharing some technical laws and a general sense of the rule of law can achieve that.)
Finally, it obviously ends on a praise of the rights saved by the US revolution, that were (not surprisingly) given by God and “not by a government”
I’m happy I don’t have to give this a grade in my argumentation class.
a-nn-on_ on
How is the EU blocking his freedom of speech?
Does he mean this?
> The European Union designed the 2023 Digital Services Act to force Google, Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, and other digital platforms to combat disinformation, online extremism, and outright scams.
“Oh the EU won’t let me spread disinformation and fake news so I can manipulate the masses, sob sob”
Capital_Resident_872 on
The Kingdom of Denmark would like to have a word
GeneraalSorryPardon on
That Mr Turley certainly knows how to turn things around. Let me guess, he’s one of those MAGA idiots too.
spaltedsplinters on
Turley is a right-wing goon and should be ignored.
Gold_Dog908 on
Is anyone surprised at this? A united Europe is a rival and, as such, a threat to the US hegemony.
EyyYoMikey on
This article is straight up farcical. Then again, we’ve got a preposterous administration that lives in bizarro world and constantly lies and scams and believes Europe is a rival. The elections can’t come soon enough.
2trembler3 on
Seriously, who in the US still cares what Maga turd Turley has to say? Best to ignore.
ilolvu on
If American conservatives are whining about you, you’re doing the right thing.
Ok-Application-8045 on
Classic DARVO.
Individual-Mud262 on
Remember that time it was exposed that the EU had a huge spying operation at the very heart of the government of the US? Its key ally?
Which is of course, the primary motivation and sole reason Canada is exploring EU membership. Canada just excels at suppressing the God-given rights of Conservatives, Neo-Cons, Nazis, and various other assorted right-wingers, the only category of human with the will and right to exist. All the rest of you, into the mass retraining camps you go! America will and must declare immediate war on all these ridiculous attempts to establish distance from their ultimate destiny: suzerainty and subservience to a Greater American Reich.
/s, in case you didn’t catch on.
JoeB- on
Freedom of speech is one of the cornerstones underpinning the First Amendment to our (U.S.) Constitution even when it gives misguided hacks like Jonathan Turley a voice.
His statement in the linked article…
>If the American Republic is to survive another 250 years, it must preserve key rights that the EU has been systematically destroying in Europe — freedom of speech, division of powers and political accountability of decision-makers.
astounds me.
I have no expertise in EU laws; however, I am living through the Trump administration and its attacks on our: 1) freedom of speech, 2) division of powers, and 3) political accountability of decision-makers. Turley says nothing about those when voicing his absurd opinions on the oligarch-owned, right-wing propaganda channel FOX News.
aro_plane on
They are so scared of united europe, it’s hilarious. Can’t pressure the whole bloc, can you? It warms my heart seeing the Republicans seething because they can’t order EU around.
paradigm_shift2027 on
Nobody cares what Turdley says. He’s proven again & again he’s just a propagandist for the Radical Right.
Treff_the_Cleric on
Jonathan Turley is a notorious conservative hack who supports Trump. He is prone to conspiratorial thinking, and he absolutely loves attention. We can safely ignore this op-ed. 🤣
Brave_Nerve_6871 on
Translation: Post -Orban EU will be harder for Trump admin to abuse
ipeih on
« Our revolution was fought against a foreign empire »
Just like everything else in this trash paper, it isn’t based on history but on moronism.
« We saw this threat before, and we defeated a world empire. If we are to survive and thrive in this century, we will need to return to our own creation as a republic — to dig deep down and remember who we are as citizens. »
Hopefully this means they’ll stay home, Monroe doctrine like and will leave the rest of the world alone
No_Lemon_666 on
The misinformation in this is staggering.
Doom_of__Mandos on
This is the reason Trump showed such support for Brexit with UK. He just wanted to see the UN fractured as much as possible. Everyone needs to rely on US, no one can play ball amongst themselves.
Academic_Dig_1567 on
This is one of the most ignorant pieces I have ever read.
trainednooob on
The EU is a threat to US sovereignty to the same degree that the EU is a security threat to Russia … only if you really really want to imagine it
b3nsn0w on
US sovereignty over what?
**insert goose chase meme**
_US sovereignty over what?_
WinstonFox on
Fuck me. Trump/Putin/Bibi are really pumping up Europe as the enemy. You can see where this is going without regime change in the US.
Szabolcs85 on
It seems that the MAGA-movement does not take kindly of Orbán’s catastrophic defeat.
Good.
T51513 on
So the bestest country of them all is scared of the europoors?
Interesting…
FrequentPrior5928 on
This has to be a joke article surely.
realqmaster on
That’s rich after you had no problems with explicitely threatening annexion of EU territories just some month ago.
Also, Orban was the epitome of russian assets. It is very telling that you consider less corruption by the Kremlin a threat to the US.
extrastupidone on
>The irony is that this claimed victory for democracy may fuel the establishment of a global governance system that is neither democratic nor accountable to citizens.
So…. your imagination. Got it
Miserable-Arm-4787 on
The easiest possible way to figure out which Americans are Russian assets is by noting who talks positively about Orban.
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Hilarious.
The EU poses a threat to US sovereignty? Ummm is that a typo?
we were allies for so many years and no one complained, and now all of a sudden EU is a big problem. Sure, whatever you say. Classic right-wing divide and conquer politics.
Somebody should ask people in Greenland about this.
[deleted]
> In [my book] “Rage and the Republic,” I discuss the dangers posed to the American republic this century by the rise of global governance systems like the EU.
Here is it, the money grift. *”Please buy my book”*.
> *The book explores how globalists planned to gradually get nations to yield their authority to the EU *
You mean the nations who willingly wants to joint he EU, has to uphold high democratic and human rights standards, can leave anytime and where in the very first treaties for the EU the demand for a more and more closer cooperation is very publicly tated … *for decades now*? That EU?
> Orban was controversial for his ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and his lack of support for Ukraine. He was also accused of authoritarianism and corruption.
Good Sir, you are missing a few important points: He was not accused of, he was actively participating it, by reworking the constitution, the courts, the media control. Furthermore his government actively workd in secret against the EU, including taking direct orders from Moscow and sharing confidential strategy meetings with Russian intelligence. Not to mention that was was not only lacking in support for Ukraine, he actively opposed any help for Ukraine, including the latest 90bn EUR bill.
> If the American Republic is to survive another 250 years, it must preserve key rights that the EU has been systematically destroying in Europe — freedom of speech, division of powers and political accountability of decision-makers.
Who again is suing the Atlantic for 250 million USD for calling the FBI director drunk?
SYL
Lunacy.
What a load of click baity nonsense.
Man, the stuff that guy had been smoking must have been strong
At this point we should just stop posting any news outlet that clearly is not living in the same reality as the rest of the world. Especially *some* news outlets from the US do live in their own world and are hardly distinguishable from satire site.
Any kind of rational discussion is totally unfruitful if you argue based on fiction.
just focus on the Pacific theater as you promised, thank you very much.
🤣
What xD
This is a pretty incredible article, it reads like a parody that an EU citizen would write to make fun of Americans. I mean are they *seriously* going to lecture us about political accountability whilst they continue to do nothing about Epstein, despite being the epicentre of the whole thing? It reads like we’re being framed as the red scare 2.0.
This guy should fuck off and pay more attention to the problems in his own country.
Spent a couple minutes to read this bullshit article. It all boils down to the usual “EU globalists bad, they want to dismantle national states and establish a Bruxelles dictatorship”, and that Peter Magyar will bend down to Von Der Leyen and sell Hungary to the EU so that she can get rid of veto rights. All while praising the “American Republic” that stands against this unprecedent threat of this globalist dictatorship that wants to cancel all american freedoms.
Also, as usual, he cried about EU regulations against tech companies.
I get that this is an opinion article, but its a shitty opinion and no one asked for it, cause it has been repeated over and over for years now by populist far-right parties. They could try to yell about other things but they always choose to yap about the same things: EU bad, regulations bad, globalist elites controll us.
The enitre article is projection. Consider this:
>That is why, I believe, the EU is inherently unstable and likely to ultimately collapse.
>The EU has worked very hard to dismantle national sovereignty and identity in its member states. Historically, such collapses have been followed by different forms of tyranny.
>Whatever comes next — and I could be wrong in my pessimism about the EU — the U.S. must take seriously the threat that this global governance system poses to our own values and sovereignty.
In reality, it’s the United States that is both administering a global governance system (its informal American empire) and also edging closer to collapse with every consecutive administration. And it is the EU that needs to take the threat of the rising American tyranny more serious than it currently does.
>If the American Republic is to survive another 250 years, it must preserve key rights that the EU has been systematically destroying in Europe — freedom of speech, division of powers and political accountability of decision-makers.
BRUV! Stop projecting, it’s hurting my eyes.
can we please ban this shitty propaganda website?
It’s always projection from the fascists
It’s interesting to (try to) follow the reasoning.It starts with an interesting question on the relationship between a form of supranational authority and “traditional” states. Unsurprisingly, the answer totally lacks nuance but it could make for an interesting talking point.Then, without too much care for transition, it switches to how it could threaten US sovereignty by wishing to submit it to a “global governance system”.
At that stage, many readers may think it’s an allusion to larger private economical powers but it soon appears that US corporations are also victims of that “unaccountable” power.
It then turns back to EU which is apparently trying to destroy national identities. (I really someone can explain me how sharing some technical laws and a general sense of the rule of law can achieve that.)
Finally, it obviously ends on a praise of the rights saved by the US revolution, that were (not surprisingly) given by God and “not by a government”
I’m happy I don’t have to give this a grade in my argumentation class.
How is the EU blocking his freedom of speech?
Does he mean this?
> The European Union designed the 2023 Digital Services Act to force Google, Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, and other digital platforms to combat disinformation, online extremism, and outright scams.
“Oh the EU won’t let me spread disinformation and fake news so I can manipulate the masses, sob sob”
The Kingdom of Denmark would like to have a word
That Mr Turley certainly knows how to turn things around. Let me guess, he’s one of those MAGA idiots too.
Turley is a right-wing goon and should be ignored.
Is anyone surprised at this? A united Europe is a rival and, as such, a threat to the US hegemony.
This article is straight up farcical. Then again, we’ve got a preposterous administration that lives in bizarro world and constantly lies and scams and believes Europe is a rival. The elections can’t come soon enough.
Seriously, who in the US still cares what Maga turd Turley has to say? Best to ignore.
If American conservatives are whining about you, you’re doing the right thing.
Classic DARVO.
Remember that time it was exposed that the EU had a huge spying operation at the very heart of the government of the US? Its key ally?
No? You don’t remember?! oh yes thats because it was the US spying on its EU allies! [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/denmark-helped-us-spy-on-angela-merkel-and-european-allies-report](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/denmark-helped-us-spy-on-angela-merkel-and-european-allies-report)
Which is of course, the primary motivation and sole reason Canada is exploring EU membership. Canada just excels at suppressing the God-given rights of Conservatives, Neo-Cons, Nazis, and various other assorted right-wingers, the only category of human with the will and right to exist. All the rest of you, into the mass retraining camps you go! America will and must declare immediate war on all these ridiculous attempts to establish distance from their ultimate destiny: suzerainty and subservience to a Greater American Reich.
/s, in case you didn’t catch on.
Freedom of speech is one of the cornerstones underpinning the First Amendment to our (U.S.) Constitution even when it gives misguided hacks like Jonathan Turley a voice.
His statement in the linked article…
>If the American Republic is to survive another 250 years, it must preserve key rights that the EU has been systematically destroying in Europe — freedom of speech, division of powers and political accountability of decision-makers.
astounds me.
I have no expertise in EU laws; however, I am living through the Trump administration and its attacks on our: 1) freedom of speech, 2) division of powers, and 3) political accountability of decision-makers. Turley says nothing about those when voicing his absurd opinions on the oligarch-owned, right-wing propaganda channel FOX News.
They are so scared of united europe, it’s hilarious. Can’t pressure the whole bloc, can you? It warms my heart seeing the Republicans seething because they can’t order EU around.
Nobody cares what Turdley says. He’s proven again & again he’s just a propagandist for the Radical Right.
Jonathan Turley is a notorious conservative hack who supports Trump. He is prone to conspiratorial thinking, and he absolutely loves attention. We can safely ignore this op-ed. 🤣
Translation: Post -Orban EU will be harder for Trump admin to abuse
« Our revolution was fought against a foreign empire »
Just like everything else in this trash paper, it isn’t based on history but on moronism.
« We saw this threat before, and we defeated a world empire. If we are to survive and thrive in this century, we will need to return to our own creation as a republic — to dig deep down and remember who we are as citizens. »
Hopefully this means they’ll stay home, Monroe doctrine like and will leave the rest of the world alone
The misinformation in this is staggering.
This is the reason Trump showed such support for Brexit with UK. He just wanted to see the UN fractured as much as possible. Everyone needs to rely on US, no one can play ball amongst themselves.
This is one of the most ignorant pieces I have ever read.
The EU is a threat to US sovereignty to the same degree that the EU is a security threat to Russia … only if you really really want to imagine it
US sovereignty over what?
**insert goose chase meme**
_US sovereignty over what?_
Fuck me. Trump/Putin/Bibi are really pumping up Europe as the enemy. You can see where this is going without regime change in the US.
It seems that the MAGA-movement does not take kindly of Orbán’s catastrophic defeat.
Good.
So the bestest country of them all is scared of the europoors?
Interesting…
This has to be a joke article surely.
That’s rich after you had no problems with explicitely threatening annexion of EU territories just some month ago.
Also, Orban was the epitome of russian assets. It is very telling that you consider less corruption by the Kremlin a threat to the US.
>The irony is that this claimed victory for democracy may fuel the establishment of a global governance system that is neither democratic nor accountable to citizens.
So…. your imagination. Got it
The easiest possible way to figure out which Americans are Russian assets is by noting who talks positively about Orban.