EU are true vegans. They care more aboit plants than people.
Toums95 on
So invading neighboring countries, ethnic cleansing, massacring civilians, killing doctors and journalists, shooting at UN soldiers, destroying infrastructure, looting is ok.
Buying a cargo of stolen grain, and oh god you should NOT have done that!
Cool and normal.
By the way, in the article body they mentioned sanctioning entities and key individuals involved, not Israel as a whole
EY-Maimune on
We should also sanction them for the war they started in Iran, which is creating an oil crisis. Its time Germany accepts that Europe interest are diametrically opposed to israel ones.
Redordit on
I sense another strongly worded letter
zapreon on
Would the EU then also sanction all other countries buying this grain? For example, Egypt? And if you really want to be systematic about targeting a far more important part of fundraising of the Russian war effort, sanction Spain for buying tons of Russian gas. That is much, much more meaningful than a ship of grain.
Anyway, Israel obviously should not allow this. However, Ukraine has never been an ally of Israel and shows very limited willingness to be one (for example, it never supports Israel in the UN and almost always votes against Israel) and is limitedly relevant in the Middle East, so it shouldn’t expect anything more than the bare mimimum from ties between these countries. It surely has to be aware that the war in Ukrainian is primarily an issue for Europe with much of the rest of the world not being particularly interested
grafknives on
What about never ending series of war crimes and crimes against humanity?
No? Just the grain?
Routine-Echidna-1953 on
Zelensky should come out and say we are changing these 5 Jewish named streets into something else.
They hate that.. diplomats would get a call withing an hour.
The-Kurgan on
inb4 german veto
combrade on
This is like the Catholic Church excommunicating Joseph Goebbels for marrying a Protestant and no other Nazi leader . Israel doesn’t even really have strong relations with Russia these days compared to the past, where Bibi used to campaign with Putin. I suspect really any sort of shift towards Russia from Israel is honestly when they want to align themselves with the United States.
thrownkitchensink on
Perhaps Europe could sanction them for illegally invading other people’s land and committing war crimes. The call in Europe is getting stronger but even now there isn’t the political will.
Europe’s credibility here is down the drain after all these years.
We have an Israël EU trade agreement that has clear provisions to suspend for such conduct. I’m very much aware of the real life differences for Europe between Russia and Israel. Historically and in current global power dynamics. I’m very much for Israel as a safe country in the region. But the country has developed from an illegal occupier into a very active illegal war monger in these last few years. It’s a destabilizing factor in our close neighboring region and it is a threat to the safety of it’s own citizens in the long term.
There is also a clear difference between very hard sanctions limiting all trade and maintaining a trade agreement facilitating all trade. Even the US has little influence on Netanyahu’s government. The trade agreement is really the only leverage Europe has.
Why not use it? It would gain us more support from other players in that region and as such it is also real politik during this energy crisis. Fear of Trump? I think he’s fed up with the Israeli reaction to the ceasefire too. Perhaps we can make a deal with the US.
BartD_ on
The EU once again showing its true colours as supporters of genocide and other Middle Eastern upheaval. Just don’t touch the Ukraine grain.
Nagash24 on
Okay, well, do it.
meowmeow_fuszyface on
What about the consistent disregard of human life, apharteid, international law, european interests and institutions?
We are really a joke, as a European dreaming of a strong EU, this makes me really mad.
Tullzterrr on
it is great news, but many of our countries have also imported record numbers of Gas from Russia…so it does sound a bit hypocritical
Odd-Future1037 on
I’ll believe it when I see it. They’re willing to sanction over a grain shipment but god forbid we sanction them over genocide, stealing homes and land and kicking the natives out.
Boreras on
This is so relentlessly funny. They can do everything except inconvenience the reddit country.
Blubbolo on
We could also sanction them for the war crimes, genocide and illegal land grab…but i guess we should start somewhere.
inokentii on
After more than decade of support of russian invasion and three years of genocide in Gaza, EU finally opened eyes on Israel. Better later than never
AVery-Creative-Name on
So that’s where the line is? That’s what they’re being sanctioned for?
Miserable_Cattle_394 on
This and: Iran for creating an economic crisises and breaking international law by killing thousands of civillians. 2. Lebanon for breaking interantional law – killing tens of thousands of civillians and diplacing millions, occupying 15%+ of the country. 3. Gaza for breaking international law – killings hundreds of thousands of civillians (over the past 50years), displacing millions and occupying the majority of Palestine.
Can someone please tell me – what is going on in a German’s head? This cannot be realpolitik, cause allowing Israel to do whatever, erodes the power of the EU.
nagai on
Can we sanction them for the endless series of illegal invasions, systemic war crimes, genocide, ethnic cleansing etc also?
Foreign_Implement897 on
Do it. Do it now!
HablarYEscuchar on
Parece que eso es más grave que un genocidio.
Talkjar on
Do it! This grain is spilled with blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent Ukrainians
AttitudeSimilar9347 on
Whatever Russia has done in Ukraine, Israel has done 100x worse in all their neighbouring countries. And not a whisper of them being sanctioned.
Movilitero on
lol sure thing!
Demode93 on
But not over genocide of Palestinian people?
noob_master69_f on
This is the REASON for sanctions against Israel? not the Palestinian genocide? not the occupation of Southern Lebanon? Not the apartheid laws and segregation? Not the illegal war in iran?
Sanctions on Israel for buying grains during a war occupied Ukraine, while some EU countries buy russian gas and oil.
I don’t understand what the fuck is going on.
Single_Bus_999 on
According to this for Eu its more important Ukrainian grain then Palestina/Gaza children.
grandmaster_flexy on
Oh suddenly Europeans have grown a conscience? How timely.
nksama on
eurovision will be fun once again this year, right?
Paradoxjjw on
Weird how we can barely be bothered enough to write a sternly worded letter when Israel commits a genocide and drives millions out of their homes, but when they buy some stolen grain suddenly we’re “ready to sanction Israel”. How come we have more respect for property than human life? Why is *this* bad enough to warrant the possibility of a real response but the intentional murder of tens of thousands of children isn’t?
Dot-Slash-Dot on
Yeah sure. No idea who they think will believe this.
The EU won’t do anything to Israel no matter what they do.
Old-Key-8639 on
So we finally found our collective spine, huh? Israel massacring tens of thousands of civilians was fine, but stealing a cargo ship is crossing the line?
CaptSpankey on
The EU values Ukrainian grain more than Arabic lives and yet “we” claim to be the beacon of lifberty and human rights. Importing goods from occupied Palestine is totally fine but importing goods from occupied Ukraine is where we draw the line.
lucslav on
What about sanctions for ethnic cleansing?
akaikem on
Genocide
I sleep
Muh precious Ukraine
Real shit
OkKnowledge2064 on
That will never happen
Aromatic-Deer3886 on
I mean sure, but what about the genocide and apartheid?
Fanhunter4ever on
So they are killing children in Gaza with no sanctions, but if they buy stolen grain could get sanctions???
I don’t understand
Top_Wasabi_7484 on
A lot of people in the comments just finding out now that most countries/organizations/institutions only act when it directly affects them or when they stand to gain. I can’t help to find it a bit naive.
Edit: The Israel-Palestine conflict doesn’t really involve the EU, so it is not surprising they haven’t done much. Most of the countries that did were trying to send a message or to appease certain voter bases. You can’t really be surprised that the EU only starts acting when a conflict actually involves them. It is the same as every other political entity.
In the same vein, countries give foreign aid, not out of the goodness of their hearts, but because it benefits the country giving aid.
b06c26d1e4fac on
Yes 🙌
Everviolet2000 on
But not over g3noc1de, the war they def started in Iran (with their b1tch, the US, doing most of the dirty work) resulting in the deaths of innocent children, rising costs of oil, and just being an overall affront to humanity, but no… Grain. That’s what does it.
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They won’t do shit
EU are true vegans. They care more aboit plants than people.
So invading neighboring countries, ethnic cleansing, massacring civilians, killing doctors and journalists, shooting at UN soldiers, destroying infrastructure, looting is ok.
Buying a cargo of stolen grain, and oh god you should NOT have done that!
Cool and normal.
By the way, in the article body they mentioned sanctioning entities and key individuals involved, not Israel as a whole
We should also sanction them for the war they started in Iran, which is creating an oil crisis. Its time Germany accepts that Europe interest are diametrically opposed to israel ones.
I sense another strongly worded letter
Would the EU then also sanction all other countries buying this grain? For example, Egypt? And if you really want to be systematic about targeting a far more important part of fundraising of the Russian war effort, sanction Spain for buying tons of Russian gas. That is much, much more meaningful than a ship of grain.
Anyway, Israel obviously should not allow this. However, Ukraine has never been an ally of Israel and shows very limited willingness to be one (for example, it never supports Israel in the UN and almost always votes against Israel) and is limitedly relevant in the Middle East, so it shouldn’t expect anything more than the bare mimimum from ties between these countries. It surely has to be aware that the war in Ukrainian is primarily an issue for Europe with much of the rest of the world not being particularly interested
What about never ending series of war crimes and crimes against humanity?
No? Just the grain?
Zelensky should come out and say we are changing these 5 Jewish named streets into something else.
They hate that.. diplomats would get a call withing an hour.
inb4 german veto
This is like the Catholic Church excommunicating Joseph Goebbels for marrying a Protestant and no other Nazi leader . Israel doesn’t even really have strong relations with Russia these days compared to the past, where Bibi used to campaign with Putin. I suspect really any sort of shift towards Russia from Israel is honestly when they want to align themselves with the United States.
Perhaps Europe could sanction them for illegally invading other people’s land and committing war crimes. The call in Europe is getting stronger but even now there isn’t the political will.
Europe’s credibility here is down the drain after all these years.
We have an Israël EU trade agreement that has clear provisions to suspend for such conduct. I’m very much aware of the real life differences for Europe between Russia and Israel. Historically and in current global power dynamics. I’m very much for Israel as a safe country in the region. But the country has developed from an illegal occupier into a very active illegal war monger in these last few years. It’s a destabilizing factor in our close neighboring region and it is a threat to the safety of it’s own citizens in the long term.
There is also a clear difference between very hard sanctions limiting all trade and maintaining a trade agreement facilitating all trade. Even the US has little influence on Netanyahu’s government. The trade agreement is really the only leverage Europe has.
Why not use it? It would gain us more support from other players in that region and as such it is also real politik during this energy crisis. Fear of Trump? I think he’s fed up with the Israeli reaction to the ceasefire too. Perhaps we can make a deal with the US.
The EU once again showing its true colours as supporters of genocide and other Middle Eastern upheaval. Just don’t touch the Ukraine grain.
Okay, well, do it.
What about the consistent disregard of human life, apharteid, international law, european interests and institutions?
We are really a joke, as a European dreaming of a strong EU, this makes me really mad.
it is great news, but many of our countries have also imported record numbers of Gas from Russia…so it does sound a bit hypocritical
I’ll believe it when I see it. They’re willing to sanction over a grain shipment but god forbid we sanction them over genocide, stealing homes and land and kicking the natives out.
This is so relentlessly funny. They can do everything except inconvenience the reddit country.
We could also sanction them for the war crimes, genocide and illegal land grab…but i guess we should start somewhere.
After more than decade of support of russian invasion and three years of genocide in Gaza, EU finally opened eyes on Israel. Better later than never
So that’s where the line is? That’s what they’re being sanctioned for?
This and: Iran for creating an economic crisises and breaking international law by killing thousands of civillians. 2. Lebanon for breaking interantional law – killing tens of thousands of civillians and diplacing millions, occupying 15%+ of the country. 3. Gaza for breaking international law – killings hundreds of thousands of civillians (over the past 50years), displacing millions and occupying the majority of Palestine.
Can someone please tell me – what is going on in a German’s head? This cannot be realpolitik, cause allowing Israel to do whatever, erodes the power of the EU.
Can we sanction them for the endless series of illegal invasions, systemic war crimes, genocide, ethnic cleansing etc also?
Do it. Do it now!
Parece que eso es más grave que un genocidio.
Do it! This grain is spilled with blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent Ukrainians
Whatever Russia has done in Ukraine, Israel has done 100x worse in all their neighbouring countries. And not a whisper of them being sanctioned.
lol sure thing!
But not over genocide of Palestinian people?
This is the REASON for sanctions against Israel? not the Palestinian genocide? not the occupation of Southern Lebanon? Not the apartheid laws and segregation? Not the illegal war in iran?
Sanctions on Israel for buying grains during a war occupied Ukraine, while some EU countries buy russian gas and oil.
I don’t understand what the fuck is going on.
According to this for Eu its more important Ukrainian grain then Palestina/Gaza children.
Oh suddenly Europeans have grown a conscience? How timely.
eurovision will be fun once again this year, right?
Weird how we can barely be bothered enough to write a sternly worded letter when Israel commits a genocide and drives millions out of their homes, but when they buy some stolen grain suddenly we’re “ready to sanction Israel”. How come we have more respect for property than human life? Why is *this* bad enough to warrant the possibility of a real response but the intentional murder of tens of thousands of children isn’t?
Yeah sure. No idea who they think will believe this.
The EU won’t do anything to Israel no matter what they do.
So we finally found our collective spine, huh? Israel massacring tens of thousands of civilians was fine, but stealing a cargo ship is crossing the line?
The EU values Ukrainian grain more than Arabic lives and yet “we” claim to be the beacon of lifberty and human rights. Importing goods from occupied Palestine is totally fine but importing goods from occupied Ukraine is where we draw the line.
What about sanctions for ethnic cleansing?
Genocide
I sleep
Muh precious Ukraine
Real shit
That will never happen
I mean sure, but what about the genocide and apartheid?
So they are killing children in Gaza with no sanctions, but if they buy stolen grain could get sanctions???
I don’t understand
A lot of people in the comments just finding out now that most countries/organizations/institutions only act when it directly affects them or when they stand to gain. I can’t help to find it a bit naive.
Edit: The Israel-Palestine conflict doesn’t really involve the EU, so it is not surprising they haven’t done much. Most of the countries that did were trying to send a message or to appease certain voter bases. You can’t really be surprised that the EU only starts acting when a conflict actually involves them. It is the same as every other political entity.
In the same vein, countries give foreign aid, not out of the goodness of their hearts, but because it benefits the country giving aid.
Yes 🙌
But not over g3noc1de, the war they def started in Iran (with their b1tch, the US, doing most of the dirty work) resulting in the deaths of innocent children, rising costs of oil, and just being an overall affront to humanity, but no… Grain. That’s what does it.