Fascists should never be given grace they would deny others.
Edit. This comment seems to have struck a nerve with Reform supporters who don’t like being labeled as extremists. Well suck it up and think about how it feels for Muslims to be labeled terrorists and refugees to be labeled rapists.
Ruin_In_The_Dark on
So. How did the barman know he was a Reformer then?
A_Pointy_Rock on
The clip isn’t in the article. The description seems to infer that the worker refused service without context or qualification in the clip and the *poster* is claiming it is because they are a Reform voter.
On the surface it sounds like rage bait…
raven43122 on
I don’t know the whole context here.
How did he know who they voted for? What lead to this happening.
On the video alone he’s getting fired.
GeorginaFlopworthy on
>“That’s not how Britain works. You don’t get to ban paying customers because of who they vote for.
That’s not how it works
RaymondBumcheese on
It’s hard to think of a worse place to work if you don’t want to serve reform voters
Djinjja-Ninja on
The clip only shows someone being refused service. There is zero context as to why they are being refused service.
Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t the right argue that businesses and employees have a right to refuse service based on their personal beliefs?
Or does that only apply when it comes to rejecting Gay and Trans people?
Pier-Head on
Was he wearing a Reform rosette or badge. Otherwise the barman is using mind reading powers and technically should know what the punter wants to drink.
Don_Alosi on
I guarantee you that the guy said “yes” to the reform bit just to get rid of them
“so you’re saying you don’t serve reform supporters?”
Yes, go away
“so you’re saying you don’t serve people from mars?”
Yes, go away
“so you’re saying you don’t serve David Attenborough?”
Yes, go away
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BusyBeeBridgette on
Bar staff can refuse service for any reason. However the manager might get annoyed if you do it all the time.
Billy_Rizzle on
I live in Braintree where this Wetherspoons is, and there is a massive amount of Reform voters in this town. The town is covered in Union Jack and St George’s cross flags. He would be refusing service to a large portion of Braintree Wetherspoons’ customers if that is his genuine for refusing service.
Also, I am pretty sure there are many people round here who are further right to Reform.
Kyr-Shara on
with most of these stories, assholes go in ready to record and stir up trouble then only record the backlash. releasing it with a fake narritive
DandyLionsInSiberia on
Assuming the customer doesn’t have his political preferences stencilled across his forehead, how would the cashier even know?
Could the refusal of service have been a reaction to something the customer said or did off camera, with only the reaction being recorded?
Is it possible the customer referenced their politics to create the impression they were being refused on that basis, rather than for some other reason?
Most are increasingly wary of these kinds of videos – a click baity curated vignette presented without a wider context.
spaceandthewoods_ on
When I worked at Spoons years ago there was a tiny older lady called Linda who was the most savage grandma I’ve ever met.
There was an EDL rally in town that day and we were told to keep an eye out for trouble. At one point a big skinhead guy with a denim jacket covered in EDL badges walks up to the bar and asks Linda for a pint. Not missing a beat she dryly replies “Nah, I don’t serve fucking racists” and casually walks away. Linda was a boss
Mobile-Ad5694 on
Does the weatherspoons staff member know that the weatherspoons founder and chairman Tim Martin is backing reform?
BanginDrumsNMums on
The irony of working for one of the most famous right wing, pro brexitiers outside of Whitehall.
Ritsugamesh on
Pubs denying Labour MPs is a good thing. Pubs denying Reformers is not. We continue to live in two realities, or at least these lot do.
Endlessly raging about rules that hurt them and then cheering the same behaviour when it hurts another.
The whole clip being incredibly short, clearly clipped, and with very specific language choices screams that there was likely an altercation, or they were making other customers uncomfortable as they discussed their local flag plans or political leanings.
But this guy, however in the right he is, will 100% be fired and Weatherspoons will play the crowd.
No_Atmosphere8146 on
Yes, this is definitely the full story reported by a completely reliable narrator.
Dissidant on
Way people are piling in on the worker based off a 14 ish second gotcha clip missing the context of whatever triggered the interaction seems pretty irresponsible on the part of the media outlet given the public outrage these stories tend to generate
Maybe it went down like it says, and maybe the punter pulled something stupid to get themselves barred, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions in the current climate
Shot_Net3794 on
If they get fired for this, I’ll happily donate to any gofundme that they set up so they have enough money to live
DukeSunday on
Ok? Businesses can refuse service for any reason that isn’t a protected characteristic. Iirc Reform are in favour of removing some of those protected characteristics as well, so these punters experienced exactly what they’re voting for.
LuinAelin on
Weren’t reform supporters cheering on pubs banning labour a while ago……
No_Reply_7519 on
Don’t even like Starmer but when he was banned they celebrated? So what’s the difference
PM_ME_BEEF_CURTAINS on
> It comes after Nigel Farage revealed on Wednesday his home was targeted in a firebombing attack last year
Like the two are comparable, jesus wept
HerrFerret on
Surely that is a breach of employment? I assumed serving alcoholic roundabout painters is core to the role?
0Bento on
Bizarrely the GB News article is actually more balanced, including a statement from Wetherspoons saying
>”In this case, as a result of the supporters’ bus being parked in the pub loading bay and filming taking place at the pub, service was refused.
>”As indicated, Reform supporters and other political supporters are welcome, but we do ask that they help us to comply with our licensing obligations.”
GB News have also blurred the young bartender’s face, ostensibly to stop him from being harassed by the sort of morons who support their publishings
SavingsSquare2649 on
Yet works for a reform advocate? I’m sure Tim will be happy about this.
Gremlin303 on
If he doesn’t want to serve Reform voters he couldn’t have many worse places to work
Willeth on
Complete non issue. Anyone can refuse service. Being scum isn’t yet a protected characteristic in the Equality Act.
FreeTheDimple on
Political leaning is not a protected characteristic like disability status or gender. Businesses are well within their rights to not serve someone for this reason.
Whether Wetherspoon’s will back up their staff member remains to be seen. But the customers have no legal leg to stand on if they tried to bring a case against anyone.
Jackie_Gan on
I dispute this article. They are 100% fringe weirdos
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Fascists should never be given grace they would deny others.
Edit. This comment seems to have struck a nerve with Reform supporters who don’t like being labeled as extremists. Well suck it up and think about how it feels for Muslims to be labeled terrorists and refugees to be labeled rapists.
So. How did the barman know he was a Reformer then?
The clip isn’t in the article. The description seems to infer that the worker refused service without context or qualification in the clip and the *poster* is claiming it is because they are a Reform voter.
On the surface it sounds like rage bait…
I don’t know the whole context here.
How did he know who they voted for? What lead to this happening.
On the video alone he’s getting fired.
>“That’s not how Britain works. You don’t get to ban paying customers because of who they vote for.
That’s not how it works
It’s hard to think of a worse place to work if you don’t want to serve reform voters
The clip only shows someone being refused service. There is zero context as to why they are being refused service.
Plus amusingly, the [X account that the article is quoting](https://x.com/triffic_stuff_/status/2049743956775223331) gleefully celebrated [Jeremy Clarkson banning Kier Starmer from his new pub](https://x.com/triffic_stuff_/status/2035650814308458916).
Forgive me if I’m wrong but didn’t the right argue that businesses and employees have a right to refuse service based on their personal beliefs?
Or does that only apply when it comes to rejecting Gay and Trans people?
Was he wearing a Reform rosette or badge. Otherwise the barman is using mind reading powers and technically should know what the punter wants to drink.
I guarantee you that the guy said “yes” to the reform bit just to get rid of them
“so you’re saying you don’t serve reform supporters?”
Yes, go away
“so you’re saying you don’t serve people from mars?”
Yes, go away
“so you’re saying you don’t serve David Attenborough?”
Yes, go away
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Bar staff can refuse service for any reason. However the manager might get annoyed if you do it all the time.
I live in Braintree where this Wetherspoons is, and there is a massive amount of Reform voters in this town. The town is covered in Union Jack and St George’s cross flags. He would be refusing service to a large portion of Braintree Wetherspoons’ customers if that is his genuine for refusing service.
Also, I am pretty sure there are many people round here who are further right to Reform.
with most of these stories, assholes go in ready to record and stir up trouble then only record the backlash. releasing it with a fake narritive
Assuming the customer doesn’t have his political preferences stencilled across his forehead, how would the cashier even know?
Could the refusal of service have been a reaction to something the customer said or did off camera, with only the reaction being recorded?
Is it possible the customer referenced their politics to create the impression they were being refused on that basis, rather than for some other reason?
Most are increasingly wary of these kinds of videos – a click baity curated vignette presented without a wider context.
When I worked at Spoons years ago there was a tiny older lady called Linda who was the most savage grandma I’ve ever met.
There was an EDL rally in town that day and we were told to keep an eye out for trouble. At one point a big skinhead guy with a denim jacket covered in EDL badges walks up to the bar and asks Linda for a pint. Not missing a beat she dryly replies “Nah, I don’t serve fucking racists” and casually walks away. Linda was a boss
Does the weatherspoons staff member know that the weatherspoons founder and chairman Tim Martin is backing reform?
The irony of working for one of the most famous right wing, pro brexitiers outside of Whitehall.
Pubs denying Labour MPs is a good thing. Pubs denying Reformers is not. We continue to live in two realities, or at least these lot do.
Endlessly raging about rules that hurt them and then cheering the same behaviour when it hurts another.
The whole clip being incredibly short, clearly clipped, and with very specific language choices screams that there was likely an altercation, or they were making other customers uncomfortable as they discussed their local flag plans or political leanings.
But this guy, however in the right he is, will 100% be fired and Weatherspoons will play the crowd.
Yes, this is definitely the full story reported by a completely reliable narrator.
Way people are piling in on the worker based off a 14 ish second gotcha clip missing the context of whatever triggered the interaction seems pretty irresponsible on the part of the media outlet given the public outrage these stories tend to generate
Maybe it went down like it says, and maybe the punter pulled something stupid to get themselves barred, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions in the current climate
If they get fired for this, I’ll happily donate to any gofundme that they set up so they have enough money to live
Ok? Businesses can refuse service for any reason that isn’t a protected characteristic. Iirc Reform are in favour of removing some of those protected characteristics as well, so these punters experienced exactly what they’re voting for.
Weren’t reform supporters cheering on pubs banning labour a while ago……
Don’t even like Starmer but when he was banned they celebrated? So what’s the difference
> It comes after Nigel Farage revealed on Wednesday his home was targeted in a firebombing attack last year
Like the two are comparable, jesus wept
Surely that is a breach of employment? I assumed serving alcoholic roundabout painters is core to the role?
Bizarrely the GB News article is actually more balanced, including a statement from Wetherspoons saying
>”In this case, as a result of the supporters’ bus being parked in the pub loading bay and filming taking place at the pub, service was refused.
>”As indicated, Reform supporters and other political supporters are welcome, but we do ask that they help us to comply with our licensing obligations.”
GB News have also blurred the young bartender’s face, ostensibly to stop him from being harassed by the sort of morons who support their publishings
Yet works for a reform advocate? I’m sure Tim will be happy about this.
If he doesn’t want to serve Reform voters he couldn’t have many worse places to work
Complete non issue. Anyone can refuse service. Being scum isn’t yet a protected characteristic in the Equality Act.
Political leaning is not a protected characteristic like disability status or gender. Businesses are well within their rights to not serve someone for this reason.
Whether Wetherspoon’s will back up their staff member remains to be seen. But the customers have no legal leg to stand on if they tried to bring a case against anyone.
I dispute this article. They are 100% fringe weirdos