The way tech companies are treating customers right now, it ignores consumer protection laws so maybe it is time.
We’ve seen bait and switch. Like google and github copilot.
Google: “Google AI PRO, 5-hour reset and full access to Gemini PRO model everywhere including antigravity” was changed into “Google AI PRO, with 5 hour reset plus a weekly cap and heavily limited access to Gemini PRO model”.
GitHub Copilot Pro(and pro+): “Always free access to a base model without any additional costs or premium requests, as well as 1500 premium requests a month” has turned into “No free base model, and a $10 worth of ai token”…
Not only that but they also purposely give us “worse versions”(quantized models, or lower thinking budget models) of the AI’s, even though all the advertisement the past 3 years promised the consumer the most frontier versions would be available to them.
Also there’s no transparent economic oversight, they might say they are losing money. But fact is how much and what do they wrap these models in that induces extra costs, and how much training do they do while putting the inference costs on the consumers, etc. All while they restrict the use cases and are trying to pull the ladder up behind them to secure all links in the chain.
While they are building mega-datacenters and buying up all the hardware and changing production patterns(and capacities), consumers are pushed over to “edge hardware”(less powerful hardware) due to rising hardware prices so we have to rent the computational power from the datacenters.
And that’s just off the top of my head… I do think consumers need some way to get some power back, but won’t more taxes just get pushed on the consumers so instead of $20 it’ll be $25?
What we really need is Antitrust Actions, stronger consumer protection laws with more potent tools available, as well as more open source models and funding for it.
I’m not “against” cloud computing, but it cannot be our only option for infrastructure – it’s too fragile and economically Imbalanced.
In all honesty that’s not my problem the “cost” for their backend is going up. They sold me something I bought it, to late to go back on the deal and start enshittifying the product. Too bad, they lost a bet for once.
Government funded + funding from big tech and datacenters for open source and public use would solve some of that.
I’m not aiming to break up or regulate them into the ground – but simply secure things like no “sneaky ads”, or no 90/10 situation(where AI’s are designed to only get the consumer 90% of the way so they are now dependant on it for all foreseeable future) etc.
tl;dr – Ultimately, Big Tech’s bad backend math isn’t our problem. They made a bad bet, and regulators need to force them to deliver exactly what they sold us.
disguisedCat1 on
Next: “Elon musk and orange conman administration claims EU are terrorists, digital taxes are the death of freedom and life on earth, donates 40 billion to AfD after cancelling social security nationwide for budget concerns.”
Movilitero on
we are already late for that. Dont get me wrong, they are fair, but they should be in already
randomhacks on
Can the tax revenue go to funding opensource tech?
I would also:
– regulate that all desktop apps have to support Linux from 2030. Not just Windows and Mac.
– regulate all Windows computers comes installed with dual boot Ubuntu / Windows. The cost of the operating system must be shown as a separate line item on the website selling the computer. Apple must provide the hardware spec to allow Linux to be installed on their computers.
– Firefox (with Ublock Origin extension) installed as the default browsers on all operating systems.
6mmSlimFilter on
Tax American tech giants, everyone wants this, literally everyone!!!
webchimp32 on
Trump is already whining about the 2% digital tax in the UK, He’ll be back to tariffing everyone.
octotent on
Yay, I will have to pay more. Just great.
OPDBZTO on
It’s about time
Niafarafa on
DO IT
throwaway09234023322 on
100% tarrifs on EU and pull out of NATO
basetheory on
Good. They have not paid much tax so far.
basetheory on
I want this.
Although I’ve just realised that if this happens, they’ll just put up their prices to cover the difference
Odd_Cauliflower_8004 on
God yes, let us be rid of azure /aws/Google cloud by making it expensive forcing Europe to start building local cloud clusters of openshift.
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Some tariffs on America big tech would be fair business.
RIP Ireland
Literally no citizen is against this. Tax the shit out of US tech companies. Or at least tax them fairly and actually make them pay.
Rip us
fuck no , its not in the EUs remit to create taxes
oh yeah, more expensive services because EU don’t want to create tech
Meanwhile in r/technology [https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1t2pbhz/silicon_six_accused_of_avoiding_almost_278bn_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1t2pbhz/silicon_six_accused_of_avoiding_almost_278bn_in/)
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The way tech companies are treating customers right now, it ignores consumer protection laws so maybe it is time.
We’ve seen bait and switch. Like google and github copilot.
Google: “Google AI PRO, 5-hour reset and full access to Gemini PRO model everywhere including antigravity” was changed into “Google AI PRO, with 5 hour reset plus a weekly cap and heavily limited access to Gemini PRO model”.
GitHub Copilot Pro(and pro+): “Always free access to a base model without any additional costs or premium requests, as well as 1500 premium requests a month” has turned into “No free base model, and a $10 worth of ai token”…
Not only that but they also purposely give us “worse versions”(quantized models, or lower thinking budget models) of the AI’s, even though all the advertisement the past 3 years promised the consumer the most frontier versions would be available to them.
Also there’s no transparent economic oversight, they might say they are losing money. But fact is how much and what do they wrap these models in that induces extra costs, and how much training do they do while putting the inference costs on the consumers, etc. All while they restrict the use cases and are trying to pull the ladder up behind them to secure all links in the chain.
While they are building mega-datacenters and buying up all the hardware and changing production patterns(and capacities), consumers are pushed over to “edge hardware”(less powerful hardware) due to rising hardware prices so we have to rent the computational power from the datacenters.
And that’s just off the top of my head… I do think consumers need some way to get some power back, but won’t more taxes just get pushed on the consumers so instead of $20 it’ll be $25?
What we really need is Antitrust Actions, stronger consumer protection laws with more potent tools available, as well as more open source models and funding for it.
I’m not “against” cloud computing, but it cannot be our only option for infrastructure – it’s too fragile and economically Imbalanced.
In all honesty that’s not my problem the “cost” for their backend is going up. They sold me something I bought it, to late to go back on the deal and start enshittifying the product. Too bad, they lost a bet for once.
Government funded + funding from big tech and datacenters for open source and public use would solve some of that.
I’m not aiming to break up or regulate them into the ground – but simply secure things like no “sneaky ads”, or no 90/10 situation(where AI’s are designed to only get the consumer 90% of the way so they are now dependant on it for all foreseeable future) etc.
tl;dr – Ultimately, Big Tech’s bad backend math isn’t our problem. They made a bad bet, and regulators need to force them to deliver exactly what they sold us.
Next: “Elon musk and orange conman administration claims EU are terrorists, digital taxes are the death of freedom and life on earth, donates 40 billion to AfD after cancelling social security nationwide for budget concerns.”
we are already late for that. Dont get me wrong, they are fair, but they should be in already
Can the tax revenue go to funding opensource tech?
I would also:
– regulate that all desktop apps have to support Linux from 2030. Not just Windows and Mac.
– regulate all Windows computers comes installed with dual boot Ubuntu / Windows. The cost of the operating system must be shown as a separate line item on the website selling the computer. Apple must provide the hardware spec to allow Linux to be installed on their computers.
– Firefox (with Ublock Origin extension) installed as the default browsers on all operating systems.
Tax American tech giants, everyone wants this, literally everyone!!!
Trump is already whining about the 2% digital tax in the UK, He’ll be back to tariffing everyone.
Yay, I will have to pay more. Just great.
It’s about time
DO IT
100% tarrifs on EU and pull out of NATO
Good. They have not paid much tax so far.
I want this.
Although I’ve just realised that if this happens, they’ll just put up their prices to cover the difference
God yes, let us be rid of azure /aws/Google cloud by making it expensive forcing Europe to start building local cloud clusters of openshift.
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