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  1. Alarmed-Cake812 on

    **Half of Spanish call for strengthening ties with China in light of US policies, according to CIS survey**

    *Two out of three citizens fear a “global war” due to the turmoil in the international context*

    Spaniards are deeply worried about the international situation and are pessimistic about the future because of the wars. This has given rise to misgivings about countries such as the United States due to the line taken by Donald Trump, and is reflected in the fact that more than half of citizens now call for looking toward China and other powers, breaking with the historic alignment with Washington.

    This is clear from a study by the Centre for Sociological Research (CIS), in which the body chaired by José Félix Tezanos focuses its questions on the international situation and the context marked by the war in Iran.

    54.5% of Spaniards indicate that the EU’s strategic position in this very complicated context should be to “strengthen ties with other countries, such as China and other emerging powers.” This is precisely the position that the Spanish government is trying to instill in Brussels and which recently led Pedro Sánchez to travel to Beijing.

    The response in favor of China comfortably outweighs the alternative proposed by the CIS, which was “to maintain a position fundamentally aligned with the United States and NATO.”

    Despite this reference to NATO, the rest of the survey responses do not suggest that Spaniards hold a critical stance toward the Alliance. Moreover, when asked whether “Spain should maintain a position aligned with the European Union and NATO,” citizens responded 65.5% in favor, compared to 30.4% who called for “a more independent foreign policy.”

    Similarly, when asked about their level of trust in organizations such as NATO, Spaniards gave it an average score of 5.27 out of 10 — not far from the UN, which scored 5.66. The EU stood out, however, with a score of 6.44.

    Indeed, in the face of uncertainty and fear, a large majority clearly believe that strengthening the EU and the unity of action among member states is a fundamental objective for confronting crises and threats.

    A striking finding of the study is that two out of three Spaniards are worried about a possible “global war.” The other third say they are little or not at all worried.

    On a more general level, 69.2% of Spaniards describe themselves as pessimistic about the situation in the world, and 58.5% believe they will live in a world that is “worse” or “much worse” than the present one.

    Regarding the war in Iran, 52.4% say that the United States and Israel are “losing” the war, compared to 27.6% who see them “winning.” The CIS then asks about the international image of these countries and their presidents, Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu. Around 90% say that their standing is “worsening.” In this question, the CIS did not include Iran, which has been attacking neighboring countries such as the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, and is using the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz as a weapon of war, despite the very serious consequences for global trade.

    Those consequences do appear when Tezanos asks Spaniards about the impact of the war, and, as expected, the survey cites the blow citizens are suffering from the rise in fuel prices, electricity, gas, and the cost of the shopping basket.

    The CIS poses several questions about the political wear and tear that Trump is experiencing in his own country and asks Spaniards — even though it is a subject they have no control over at all — whether the US president will end up being removed from office through impeachment or due to the effect he is having on voters within his own party.

  2. IamHumanAndINeed on

    Spain doesn’t understand how much China can be a threat. And you want to be even more dependent on them ?

    No we need to decouple as much from the US as from China (even more so from China I would say).

  3. butwhywedothis on

    Can’t the EU guys just discuss and agree to fund European alternatives? Decoupling from US is good but that shouldn’t mean start a new dependency on China. EU should use this opportunity to develop and strengthen European tech.

  4. Dear-Leopard-590 on

    From a geopolitical standpoint, the most Spain can do is decide whether or not to participate in Eurovision song contest.

  5. Latter-Professor2951 on

    The CIS is gov controlled and posts whatever lies Pedro Sanchez demands. Tezanos is our inept Goebbles.

  6. fingerpaintswithpoop on

    China’s arguably worse. Spain is being short-sighted.

  7. Defiant_Tutor_2166 on

    According to the CIS, Pedro Sánchez would beat Rafa Nadal at Roland-Garros 😂🤣

  8. Jawnny-Jawnson on

    If they’re on their “high horse” over human rights in Palestine how can they turn around and support working with a dictatorship who uses sweat shops and has concentration camps for Muslims, and is erasing Tibetan culture, and threatens violence with its neighbors. Spain is a hypocrite

  9. UNSKIALz on

    Europe has to do 2 things:

    1. Build at home. Buy European.

    2. Sadly, yes. We need to tighten (slightly more) with China to balance the US’ retreat. We should benefit, but not become codependent.

  10. DaySecure7642 on

    This is just reactive or even revenge driven thinking, not solving any problems. Spain needs to think of why it is doing it, and for what?

    1) To compensate for the US withdrawing troops to make Spain and the EU safer?
    – Is strengthening ties with China going to bring the Chinese troop to safeguard Spain or save Ukraine? China does not deploy troops overseas and is actively helping Russia to invade Ukraine.

    2) To find new trade partner in anticipation of less export to the US?
    – China is going to export way more to Spain than the other way around. The more Spain trade with China, the bigger the trade deficit and less local companies needed, creating unemployment.

    3) To find more reliable partners to uphold the international laws and the liberal/progressive values.
    – China does not believe in human rights, free speech, or rule based orders. It is all on relationships and transactional values. I can understand Spain hate the US for waging wars. But how is siding with China that helping Russia to invade Ukraine and preparing to invade Taiwan itself will help make the world the EU wants?

    The worst decision is not able to find an alternative to the US, but siding with someone even worse than the US.

  11. ayase_2006 on

    If it does not say Made in Spain or Made in EU. It’s a mistake.

    Put your money to work for you, not others. I might be biased though.

  12. FriendlyStory7 on

    Such a good idea to fall into the influence of a none democratic country…

  13. SafeImpressive4413 on

    If the CIS is saying it, it’s probably wrong or lying for political interests.

    That’s because CIS is controlled by the government and the president is not some guy with a bunch of studies on statistic but a politician with a degree in political science that has been a politician affiliated to the government party for all of his life.

    Out of the last 42 elections celebrated in Spain (all of the ones celebrated since he became president of CIS in 2017) he overestimated the votes of his party in 41 of them. There is no transparency on data recollection or basically anything that would make this credible.

    So yeah don’t trust this guy, probably a manipulated result, nobody in Spain trusts what this organism says anyways as everyone knows it’s a political tool.

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