Starmer and Streeting are ramping up the UK relationship with Palantir. They’re worse than the Tories.
Altruistic-Bat-9070 on
they will still be governed by uk law and have to process this data in accordance with gdpr etc. a lot of scaremongering articles are coming out about palentir in the NHS when they have been working for the nhs since before the labour government and do produce good products.
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The palantir ceo is fucking insane. The people working at palantir who i have crossed paths with on other projects are some of the best. They also have many us military contracts where they will have to keep data safer than the nhs requires. I suspect the data will be safer in palantirs hands than in the nhs’s from my direct experience of working on projects where they have also been hired.
IlIIIllIIlIlllII on
Hahaha the billionaires own everything and people are cheering it on
South_Buy_3175 on
Because why the fuck wouldn’t they?
Can’t wait for Reform to jump on this, only to desperately want to do the same fucking thing.
Why does every party come with horrendous fucking drawbacks?
heytherepartner5050 on
This is part of why the media & American tech assholes all want Streeting to replace Starmer: they’re the same guy, pushing the same ‘vibe’ & they’ll both push this spy agency into every aspect of our country
ICutDownTrees on
They are literally best in class when it comes to this sort of things.
Yes the CEO is a cunt, yes it’s owned by Theil who is another very questionable person. But having worked with them, they are really fucking good at what they do
mikemac1997 on
Is there any tangible way that someone could revoke permission to access their personal data.
My medical history is as boring as the text on a box of pills. But I’m not consenting to that shit show of a company knowing anything about me that isn’t on the public domain, nor do I trust them to keep my data safe.
Headlight-Highlight on
All government data is probably already on the dark web. Give the government your data and you may as well publish it yourself.
ancientgreenthings on
Get onto your MP about this. They need to understand that they are building the most dystopian tools for Reform to inherit.
Englishkid96 on
Classic centrist disinformation conspiracy mongering like the good old days of Marina Hyde
James20k on
Another great policy from Kier Starmer. Truly this man is an absolute visionary for our country and has our best interests at heart as a people. He’s just making the tough choices that nobody else wants to selling out the NHS to Palantir, and its just the press unfairly maligning him. Just give him a chance guys, and he’ll keep selling the NHS off to the scummiest worst corporation that exists just For Britain. A new leader might not do things like privatising the NHS, so how would they be any better than glorious Kier?
malccy72 on
Palantir are one of the worst right now. I hope this comes back to haunt the present government.
Awkwardlyhugged on
This is a good explainer (from Australia’s ABC) for people out of the loop
But does any single person here not think that every single country or bad actor that wants this data doesn’t already have it?
100’s of shitty badly maintained databases for different trusts around the uk. And you don’t think this data is already available to anyone that wants it?
If anything centralising the data infrastructure for uk health will improve things. Irrelevant of how much you hate palantir.
J1mj0hns0n on
Just did a quick Google that makes me feel a bit better.
“Contractual Constraints: According to NHS England, Palantir cannot monetize, sell, or commercialize NHS data, nor can they use it to train their own AI models.”
“Data Control: The NHS maintains control over the data, with strict privacy-enhancing technologies (awarded to IQVIA) used to protect it.”
“Operational Optimization: Palantir’s Foundry software enables trusts to visualize data in real-time, helping to manage elective care and staffing, which NHS England indicates has already aided in reducing patient discharge delays.Controlling Data Fragmentation: The FDP addresses the issue of NHS trusts operating on separate, disjointed databases, allowing for better sharing of information.”
Basically they put out the contract to streamline the different NHS trusts into one cohesive database and they’re the big firm to do it, they might have a shit reputation for business but they’re contractually obliged to not mess with your data, just build and maintain the database for seven years.
Marijuanaut420 on
FYI the ‘best in class’ comments are clearly all LLM generated and the posters are bots or useful idiots.
SufficientAnonymity on
What. The. Fuck.
Why are we deepening our relationship with Palantir when everything indicates we should be trying to unwind it.
QVRedit on
There is a great deal of value in that data – it’s literally worth £ Billions – they should NOT have free access to it.
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Starmer and Streeting are ramping up the UK relationship with Palantir. They’re worse than the Tories.
they will still be governed by uk law and have to process this data in accordance with gdpr etc. a lot of scaremongering articles are coming out about palentir in the NHS when they have been working for the nhs since before the labour government and do produce good products.
Edit:
The palantir ceo is fucking insane. The people working at palantir who i have crossed paths with on other projects are some of the best. They also have many us military contracts where they will have to keep data safer than the nhs requires. I suspect the data will be safer in palantirs hands than in the nhs’s from my direct experience of working on projects where they have also been hired.
Hahaha the billionaires own everything and people are cheering it on
Because why the fuck wouldn’t they?
Can’t wait for Reform to jump on this, only to desperately want to do the same fucking thing.
Why does every party come with horrendous fucking drawbacks?
This is part of why the media & American tech assholes all want Streeting to replace Starmer: they’re the same guy, pushing the same ‘vibe’ & they’ll both push this spy agency into every aspect of our country
They are literally best in class when it comes to this sort of things.
Yes the CEO is a cunt, yes it’s owned by Theil who is another very questionable person. But having worked with them, they are really fucking good at what they do
Is there any tangible way that someone could revoke permission to access their personal data.
My medical history is as boring as the text on a box of pills. But I’m not consenting to that shit show of a company knowing anything about me that isn’t on the public domain, nor do I trust them to keep my data safe.
All government data is probably already on the dark web. Give the government your data and you may as well publish it yourself.
Get onto your MP about this. They need to understand that they are building the most dystopian tools for Reform to inherit.
Classic centrist disinformation conspiracy mongering like the good old days of Marina Hyde
Another great policy from Kier Starmer. Truly this man is an absolute visionary for our country and has our best interests at heart as a people. He’s just making the tough choices that nobody else wants to selling out the NHS to Palantir, and its just the press unfairly maligning him. Just give him a chance guys, and he’ll keep selling the NHS off to the scummiest worst corporation that exists just For Britain. A new leader might not do things like privatising the NHS, so how would they be any better than glorious Kier?
Palantir are one of the worst right now. I hope this comes back to haunt the present government.
This is a good explainer (from Australia’s ABC) for people out of the loop
[Who is Palantir and how did they get so powerful?](https://youtu.be/PpEg0XIeFtA)
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I’m all for palantir bashing.
But does any single person here not think that every single country or bad actor that wants this data doesn’t already have it?
100’s of shitty badly maintained databases for different trusts around the uk. And you don’t think this data is already available to anyone that wants it?
If anything centralising the data infrastructure for uk health will improve things. Irrelevant of how much you hate palantir.
Just did a quick Google that makes me feel a bit better.
“Contractual Constraints: According to NHS England, Palantir cannot monetize, sell, or commercialize NHS data, nor can they use it to train their own AI models.”
“Data Control: The NHS maintains control over the data, with strict privacy-enhancing technologies (awarded to IQVIA) used to protect it.”
“Operational Optimization: Palantir’s Foundry software enables trusts to visualize data in real-time, helping to manage elective care and staffing, which NHS England indicates has already aided in reducing patient discharge delays.Controlling Data Fragmentation: The FDP addresses the issue of NHS trusts operating on separate, disjointed databases, allowing for better sharing of information.”
Basically they put out the contract to streamline the different NHS trusts into one cohesive database and they’re the big firm to do it, they might have a shit reputation for business but they’re contractually obliged to not mess with your data, just build and maintain the database for seven years.
FYI the ‘best in class’ comments are clearly all LLM generated and the posters are bots or useful idiots.
What. The. Fuck.
Why are we deepening our relationship with Palantir when everything indicates we should be trying to unwind it.
There is a great deal of value in that data – it’s literally worth £ Billions – they should NOT have free access to it.