Dalla Finlandia: Vietare i telefoni ha cambiato l’atmosfera della scuola: i giochi di carte hanno sostituito i telefoni e lo studio durante le pause è stato aumentato
Dalla Finlandia: Vietare i telefoni ha cambiato l’atmosfera della scuola: i giochi di carte hanno sostituito i telefoni e lo studio durante le pause è stato aumentato
Article in Finnish, but should be decently well handled by reddit’s translation.
Finland’s national broadcasting company visited a school that had banned the use of phones during classes, limiting use to special cases such as emergencies.
Some quotes from the student interviews in the video: “The sense of community has increased a lot, as people don’t just stare their phones. Students do a lot more sports during breaks.” “It has pros and cons, when you can’t check a message right away. But otherwise, it’s been nice, as you spend more time with your friends.” “It’s easier to approach others when they’re not using their phone”.
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I just saw a Canadian news story that was along the same lines. They actually recorded a 16 year old girls reaction when the ban first came in, she wasn’t happy. A year later, she was really enjoying it, said everyone seemed more sociable and such.
VikintheMAN on
Turns out kids didn’t lose their social lives without phones they just got real ones back. Card games and actual conversations sound like a massive win.
smallproton on
Now that’s a surprise!
/s
Tenocticatl on
I’m 38 and don’t have kids, but given how tempting it is to be on my phone all the time, I think banning them in schools is probably the right call.
korvolga on
My kids support this. They have no problem turning in phones each lesson. Youngest one needs to next year turn it in at beginning of day. As parent i support this. And i also hope actual books make a return instead of having to deal with a chromebook that cant even fit one page.
darlugal on
I had mobile phone since 13 y.o., and played computer games since 4 y.o. I was the best student in school and almost the best in university, and I genuinely don’t understand how phones could be a problem to teenagers. No, actually, I can understand this, but I don’t understand why would their addiction problems affect me in not being allowed to use phone at school anymore.
FastGooner77 on
Good. Reminds me of my time in high-school where we used to play soccer with a water bottle during breaks
umotex12 on
I will always argue that boomers and their boomer cartoons were almost right in this regard.
CertainMiddle2382 on
Trying to to the same over here.
But it’s impossible, gouvernement is scared shitless because they are threatened by MAG7 that they will ask Trump to increase tariffs if anyone pushed back against them…
So gouvernement tries not to look ridiculous and bet on « information » instead of ban. (100% of teachers, parents and older children ask for a complete ban).
I bet in 2 years, you can bet they will start giving again IPads to the students.
Zanji123 on
Card games…. so…they play Mtg/pokemon/yugioh until that gets banned 😉
EorlundGraumaehne on
Phones where banned in my school in germany too. Really makes a difference
alluballu on
Some of my best memories from school were from those 15 minute breaks outside where like 7-8 of us would sit around the table and play some “Paskahousu” (I think this is called “Shithead” in English). Good times.
Any-Original-6113 on
Perhaps, setting aside gadgets while studying is itself a kind of education.
Young people need to learn how to manage and budget their time- and that will serve them well later in life
Irveria on
It is also prohibited in my state in Germany, but I can’t confirm that for the school at which I work. There are hardly any, if any, problems with the 5th and 6th grades, but there are more frequent issues with the 9th and 10th grades.
Allegra1120 on
Wait till they discover “poker.”
Chisignal on
Can’t help but also think about the “other” side of phones other than consuming content, which is, well, producing photos and recordings.
Oftentimes I’m thankful for being just about the last generation that didn’t have smartphones while growing up in school, given how vicious internet can be – anything from there being no video of my embarrassing recitals (which alone would’ve destroyed me), to horrible stuff like deepfakes or CSAM rings.
I’m an early adopter of all tech, and spend lots of time online, including when I was growing up, so I’m not about to demonize internet in entirety – but it seems clear that environments for kids to grow up can well do without pocket surveillance/dopamine machines
Turioturen on
Fire is warm.
Ice is cold.
gradinka on
They just reverted school back to the 90s.
VicenteOlisipo on
This is our generation’s “bibles in school” moment. Forcing the kids to do things we want and then patting ourselves in the back for how good it is for them.
bobcollege on
Breaks are not for studying, fuck that
andrei9669 on
last I remember, card games were banned on school ground.
oritfx on
We got rid of lead in gasoline, almost got rid of smoking. It’s a good time to deal with social media.
Salvatio on
As a teacher in a school where they banned phone use 2 years ago, I can only endorse this. Yes, the students were NOT happy when we announced that, but even now they agree the school has a more pleasant atmosphere. They talk with each other or do sports, while before the ban the break times legitimately looked depressing.
Teachers are also expected not to use their phones much in public, fyi.
CptBigglesworth on
Teachers used to hate me and my friends playing cards all the time.
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Article in Finnish, but should be decently well handled by reddit’s translation.
Finland’s national broadcasting company visited a school that had banned the use of phones during classes, limiting use to special cases such as emergencies.
Some quotes from the student interviews in the video: “The sense of community has increased a lot, as people don’t just stare their phones. Students do a lot more sports during breaks.” “It has pros and cons, when you can’t check a message right away. But otherwise, it’s been nice, as you spend more time with your friends.” “It’s easier to approach others when they’re not using their phone”.
I just saw a Canadian news story that was along the same lines. They actually recorded a 16 year old girls reaction when the ban first came in, she wasn’t happy. A year later, she was really enjoying it, said everyone seemed more sociable and such.
Turns out kids didn’t lose their social lives without phones they just got real ones back. Card games and actual conversations sound like a massive win.
Now that’s a surprise!
/s
I’m 38 and don’t have kids, but given how tempting it is to be on my phone all the time, I think banning them in schools is probably the right call.
My kids support this. They have no problem turning in phones each lesson. Youngest one needs to next year turn it in at beginning of day. As parent i support this. And i also hope actual books make a return instead of having to deal with a chromebook that cant even fit one page.
I had mobile phone since 13 y.o., and played computer games since 4 y.o. I was the best student in school and almost the best in university, and I genuinely don’t understand how phones could be a problem to teenagers. No, actually, I can understand this, but I don’t understand why would their addiction problems affect me in not being allowed to use phone at school anymore.
Good. Reminds me of my time in high-school where we used to play soccer with a water bottle during breaks
I will always argue that boomers and their boomer cartoons were almost right in this regard.
Trying to to the same over here.
But it’s impossible, gouvernement is scared shitless because they are threatened by MAG7 that they will ask Trump to increase tariffs if anyone pushed back against them…
So gouvernement tries not to look ridiculous and bet on « information » instead of ban. (100% of teachers, parents and older children ask for a complete ban).
I bet in 2 years, you can bet they will start giving again IPads to the students.
Card games…. so…they play Mtg/pokemon/yugioh until that gets banned 😉
Phones where banned in my school in germany too. Really makes a difference
Some of my best memories from school were from those 15 minute breaks outside where like 7-8 of us would sit around the table and play some “Paskahousu” (I think this is called “Shithead” in English). Good times.
Perhaps, setting aside gadgets while studying is itself a kind of education.
Young people need to learn how to manage and budget their time- and that will serve them well later in life
It is also prohibited in my state in Germany, but I can’t confirm that for the school at which I work. There are hardly any, if any, problems with the 5th and 6th grades, but there are more frequent issues with the 9th and 10th grades.
Wait till they discover “poker.”
Can’t help but also think about the “other” side of phones other than consuming content, which is, well, producing photos and recordings.
Oftentimes I’m thankful for being just about the last generation that didn’t have smartphones while growing up in school, given how vicious internet can be – anything from there being no video of my embarrassing recitals (which alone would’ve destroyed me), to horrible stuff like deepfakes or CSAM rings.
I’m an early adopter of all tech, and spend lots of time online, including when I was growing up, so I’m not about to demonize internet in entirety – but it seems clear that environments for kids to grow up can well do without pocket surveillance/dopamine machines
Fire is warm.
Ice is cold.
They just reverted school back to the 90s.
This is our generation’s “bibles in school” moment. Forcing the kids to do things we want and then patting ourselves in the back for how good it is for them.
Breaks are not for studying, fuck that
last I remember, card games were banned on school ground.
We got rid of lead in gasoline, almost got rid of smoking. It’s a good time to deal with social media.
As a teacher in a school where they banned phone use 2 years ago, I can only endorse this. Yes, the students were NOT happy when we announced that, but even now they agree the school has a more pleasant atmosphere. They talk with each other or do sports, while before the ban the break times legitimately looked depressing.
Teachers are also expected not to use their phones much in public, fyi.
Teachers used to hate me and my friends playing cards all the time.