Can’t wait to see Germans imposing their heavy fighter doctrine to a state notoriously known for its light and flexible aircraft.
Peysh on
AirbusDS trying to grift Saab now.
BushMonsterInc on
Saab 6th gen: stealthier than su57, still can land on anything that is somewhat level and, for some reason, is still cheaper than some 4.5th gen
Gr33hn on
I am sure SAAB would happily build a “FCAS” for Germany, Spain, etc if they footed the full bill. Dont think Sweden would be terribly interested considering the SwAFs proclivity towards lighter and more flexible aircraft.
With all the bonding recently I think if Sweden was to collaborate with anyone on a new airplane it could very well be France.
sophisticatedbuffoon on
It is probably what Dassault wanted to achieve in the first place. The FCAS ecosystem will be somewhat standardised, but they produce two separate aircraft with a French national solution made exclusively by Dassault and an Airbus/Saab hybrid.
This way, they don’t have to deal with the notoriously unwilling Germans when it comes to exporting their plane into the Middle East.
I am just wondering if the Germans and Swedes with very different fighter doctrines will be compatible and how Spains problematic Harrier replacement will play into this.
Beyllionaire on
Unrealistic. Germany and Sweden don’t have the same needs at all. Unless Saab is simply a contractor for a German plane that doesn’t involve the Swedish government, like Saab provides electronic warfare pods and chaff dispensers for the Typhoon today.
AlfredsChild on
Europe = France, Germany and Spain now?
StrangerConscious637 on
European only must be the most important thing for decades now!
Elpsyth on
Saab is all for it. The current Swedish government no. A statement has been out forward a few months back that the specs requirements were too different.
mrsuaveoi3 on
The big elephant in the room is with what engine? American or British?
Itburns12345 on
Excellent
Saab where gonna look into the possibility of making their own 6th gen anyway
They already have produced an absolute gem of a 4.5 gen fighter in the gripen its only a question of qorking with thr other parties without any conflicts.
Unlike the french there will likely be no carrier or nuclear carrying requirements added to the drawing board either!
Eyyyyymanimu on
It will never be good involving both Germany and France. They won’t be able to choose either a wine holder or beer holder.
But seriously they couldn’t work together last time.
DarkNe7 on
I don think this will result in a common aircraft for between SAAB and Airbus considering the difference in requirements and doctrine between Sweden and the others. More realistic would be sharing development of common components like radar, electronic warfare, engines(Swedish fighter might use one while the other two?) and so on. It could still significantly cut costs but I think it is unlikely to result in a common aircraft.
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Can’t wait to see Germans imposing their heavy fighter doctrine to a state notoriously known for its light and flexible aircraft.
AirbusDS trying to grift Saab now.
Saab 6th gen: stealthier than su57, still can land on anything that is somewhat level and, for some reason, is still cheaper than some 4.5th gen
I am sure SAAB would happily build a “FCAS” for Germany, Spain, etc if they footed the full bill. Dont think Sweden would be terribly interested considering the SwAFs proclivity towards lighter and more flexible aircraft.
With all the bonding recently I think if Sweden was to collaborate with anyone on a new airplane it could very well be France.
It is probably what Dassault wanted to achieve in the first place. The FCAS ecosystem will be somewhat standardised, but they produce two separate aircraft with a French national solution made exclusively by Dassault and an Airbus/Saab hybrid.
This way, they don’t have to deal with the notoriously unwilling Germans when it comes to exporting their plane into the Middle East.
I am just wondering if the Germans and Swedes with very different fighter doctrines will be compatible and how Spains problematic Harrier replacement will play into this.
Unrealistic. Germany and Sweden don’t have the same needs at all. Unless Saab is simply a contractor for a German plane that doesn’t involve the Swedish government, like Saab provides electronic warfare pods and chaff dispensers for the Typhoon today.
Europe = France, Germany and Spain now?
European only must be the most important thing for decades now!
Saab is all for it. The current Swedish government no. A statement has been out forward a few months back that the specs requirements were too different.
The big elephant in the room is with what engine? American or British?
Excellent
Saab where gonna look into the possibility of making their own 6th gen anyway
They already have produced an absolute gem of a 4.5 gen fighter in the gripen its only a question of qorking with thr other parties without any conflicts.
Unlike the french there will likely be no carrier or nuclear carrying requirements added to the drawing board either!
It will never be good involving both Germany and France. They won’t be able to choose either a wine holder or beer holder.
But seriously they couldn’t work together last time.
I don think this will result in a common aircraft for between SAAB and Airbus considering the difference in requirements and doctrine between Sweden and the others. More realistic would be sharing development of common components like radar, electronic warfare, engines(Swedish fighter might use one while the other two?) and so on. It could still significantly cut costs but I think it is unlikely to result in a common aircraft.