
Un’iniziativa svizzera vuole che i volantini finanzino i treni
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/emissions-reduction/a-swiss-initiative-wants-flyers-to-fund-trains/91736234?utm_source=multiple&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=bundle-front1_en&utm_content=o&utm_term=wpblock_teaser-bundle
di Heavy-Mycologist-204
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They can fuck off with that.
Why not stop the pointless flights such as Zurich to Geneva?
Stop flights that could be train journeys, like France did.
Like many MANY initiatives, it will go nowhere at all.
Meh, I’d rather have us subsidize public transport entirely instead of going only after air travel.
Give me good last-kilometer flexibility and modernize the rail infra, then make it free for anyone to use and you’ll see car commuting plummet.
i actually like this idea, airline tickets are ridiculously cheap to the point where I often pay less for the flight than the train to get to the airport (I recently paid 17 CHF to fly to Romania from Basel and like 35 CHF to get to the Basel airport…. thats with halbtax).
also having much higher taxes for private jets is great
How about…. No
The key to making people fly less and take the train more is to actually make them competitive in overall attractiveness. Booking a trip by train across Europe is a nightmare where you have to book multiple tickets for multiple countries, putting the risk of missing a connection on you, and so on. Simply put, unless you want to spend 5 hours researching and are a bit masochistic, booking a flight is just the easier choice.
Long-distance trains can never win by speed alone, but if you make it easy, comfortable and affordable for people, they will come. Right now it’s none of those 3 things.
I certainly believe the European train network could become good enough to replace most short flights, but taxing flights without improving trains is not the way.
This is a great initiative. Aviation has no medium-term prospects of becoming green, because of technological limitations. We need to find ways to transfer money from air to rail so that rail becomes more competitive, both in terms of pricing and infrastructure. This initiative covers both by suggesting vouchers directly targeted at the population, and subsidies for international (night) train travel.
Domestic flights sure. Or maybe even any route covered by trains.
I read the title and though it means have publicity flyers distributed in the train to fund the trains
If this gets accepted, i’ll just start booking MLH-XYZ instead of BSL-XYZ.
Looks like having an airport close by that’s legally in two countries and therefore has two IATA codes (or even three if you count EAP) is a major advantage.
Travel within Switzerland: Flight is not an alternative and therefore train should not benefit from punishing customers.
Travel outside Switzerland: A lot of our neighbors train networks are not remotely on the same level, additionally the networks don’t offer as seamless of travel, outside of time. A domestic tax should not and will not be able to compensate this.
The honest pitch should be “Make flyers pay SBB so they can finally afford a running AC in and frequent cleaning of trains.” That would be more interesting for me 😅
But seriously, this would only work as a “Vision 2035 project” if done across Europe.
I’d prefer Porta Alpina. Domestically way more influential and the cost calculation from SBB that killed that idea was no bulletproof at all.
How about no. Personally I don’t think this would have any chance to pass in a vote.
they can fuck off with it… Same for cars and trucks.
Not everyone commutes point to point with a train and often require bus, tram or multiples. This makes the time loss compared to other modes of transport significant. When you start to look for travel beyond the borders of Switzerland, the risk of loosing a connection is significant, and especially critical for families traveling together.
I go to south west german city for business, where the train commute is just a pain in the ass. I also go to central italy often for business, and it is the same. I gave up after my 4-6h trip turned into an all nighter.
The problem isn’t just with booking, but with the reliability of trains in different countries. In Germany, I’d never travel by train (it’d probably be quicker to walk); in Italy, I have to allow at least 30 minutes for connections; and in France, I have to hope there aren’t any general strikes.
I do enjoy travelling by train, but Switzerland is the only country where I can be sure of a good quality of service.
Stop with taxing flights. Put a 10k tax on every SUV sale and then, they have my signature.