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    1. Eoghanolf on

      I’m going to find it hard to imagine Gardaí to enforce this. I’m not saying that as an argument against it, but why not make it a crime for shops to sell them to children? I’m sure adults buy them for their kids so I’m sure that also wouldn’t go far enough

    2. Tomaskerry on

      Insurance seems a bit excessive.

      The big advantage of them is that they’re cheap to use.

      To be fair, you could just buy a bike instead.

    3. Wetasanotter on

      >But this is now a major health issue in Ireland, a major road safety issue in Ireland, and that’s why we’re acting decisively,” he said.

      No it’s not, it’s just a popular political issue and you’re finally jumping on the bandwagon after several years of inaction with a bureaucratic and punishing response that will just push people back into cars or extraordinary long commutes via public transport while doing nothing about the issue that people actually care about (behaviour that was already illegal and not in any way enforced).

      This is what this Government does, as a result of illegal behaviour they bring in measures to punish people who aren’t the problem while not tackling the real problem.

    4. Seems a shame to effectively ban something so useful because of the actions of a few.

    5. Dr_Eloyd on

      Lol so they just found a way to make money off this kicking horse. Looking forward to see how they manage to get a tax disc on a scooter.

    6. This is effectively them doing nothing.

      Scooters aren’t the problem, people abusing them and having zero consideration for other road and path users are the problem.

      The only thing that will fix this is a garda crackdown. They need to give the guards whatever resources or legal back up they need to go after the people breaking the law. They probably already know who’s doing it, where they live and the routes they take every day.

      This is just typical of FF/FG policy of hands off approach to everything. If it can’t be fixed with taxes, fines, or paperwork they are all out of suggestions and we just have to live with the problem.

    7. Ok_Pea_3842 on

      Gardaí should be allowed ram them off their dirt bikes and escooters.

      Better they’re hurt than some innocent person.

    8. KillerKlown88 on

      I hate these stupid scooters, but this is all getting ridiculous.

      Enforce the current laws instead of punishig responsible users.

    9. ThemeStunning5969 on

      Government still have no idea how to tackle a problem without taxing it. All makes no difference anyways as it won’t be enforced

    10. ChaosActual on

      I feel sorry for the people who actually follow the current rules and will no doubt follow the new ones

      It’s the other lot who are the problem and it will make zero difference to them

    11. TheBatmanIRL on

      Again, measures that need enforcement that won’t be enforced.

    12. Alarmed_Fee_4820 on

      The registration fee should be linked to the shop that sells them and it’s found they’ve selling to underage people then shops should be fined and owners of said shop should be prosecuted alongside the parents for getting the E Scooter.

    13. SomeRandomGamer3 on

      Except you won’t be able to register them to be able to tax and insure them. No EU certs of conformity for them.

    14. mushy_cactus on

      Kinda impressive how quick they made this law with the need of tax and insurance…

      If only they could be as competent across others areas of the law.

    15. Willing-Departure115 on

      There are basically the same number of Gardai today as in 2009, for a population that’s about a million more than then.

      Until that is fixed, you won’t see proper enforcement except on high profile campaign days.

    16. Due-Communication724 on

      The problem users are the ones that need targeting, just looking at the serious issue of robbed motorbikes (the gov keep pushing this narrative of ‘scramblers’, its all motorcycles), the Garda are absolutely powerless to do anything. What will happen is the same, the good citizens will follow the rules, and the gougers will rob them and abuse it, and like motorcycles just won’t stop and the Garda won’t do anything cause they’ll be up shit creek without a paddle if someone comes off one.

    17. Smackmybitchup007 on

      Lol. This means licences, reg plates and tax and insurance discs. The red tape for enacting this legislation will stop it. All talk bullshit.

    18. TwinIronBlood on

      No insurance company is going to take this on. Next bicycles will need it to. We have laws just enforce them.

    19. DaCor_ie on

      This doesn’t even work for cars as evidenced by the numbers caught with no tax, insurance, licences etc

    20. “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”

    21. Omuirchu on

      Surprised it took them this long to tax them. Seems like the governments answer to everything.

    22. Friendly-Look4262 on

      so what will happen is responsible users of escooters who weren’t an issue anyways will get licensed and pay insurance, whilst those who were being a public menace on them will continue to be so without getting either of those requirements due to zero enforcement 

    23. Rowley_Birkin_Qc on

      eScooters are an absolute godsend for this government.

      They can take a very hard line on something that will have next to no effect on core FFG voters.

      They can bring in blunt unenforceable regulations, point at AGS and say “it’s yer problem now lads” and wipe their hands of it.

      It also allowed the Aughinish Alumina scandal, along with umpteen others, to slide off the front pages while the Dáil gets ready to break up for a big holiday.

      They are following a golden rule in politics by not letting a good crisis go to waste.

    24. Davidoff1983 on

      I love how the Irish government solves every problem by monetizing it.

    25. Lmao love how Reddit has 180’d from giving out about eejits on e-scooters all the time to claiming “it’s only a few people giving it a bad name, what about the real scootorists!?”

      Anything to put the shoe in on the government for internet points I guess 

    26. PirateShampoo on

      They do the absolute minimum on traffic laws as it is. Do people really think they suddenly going to start checking people on scooters. We will have a big song and dance for a week and then back to the current status quo. 

    27. Betterthanthouu on

      The discourse around this is the most ignorant thing I’ve ever seen, and I’m pretty confident it’s intentional ignorance. The people using e-scooters dangerously are already almost exclusively using ones that aren’t legal, and will continue to do so no matter what laws are introduced. The only people punished by this will be people who were following the law to begin with, which is of course largely younger and working class people, so why would FFG care as long as it gains some popularity amongst their voters who are entirely unaware of the current laws.

    28. BlueBloodLive on

      So my scooter which is locked at 25kph, has to have tax and insurance, with mandatory vest and helmet, while the lads on bicycles blast past me, and go through red lights at 50kph+ with no vest or helmet?

      Such a pile of fucking shite.

      Insurance companies are now licking their lips, as a pile of money just gets dropped in their lap. Much like Diageo and the minimum pricing.

    29. Free_Individual_420 on

      Time to buy an unregistered dirt bike I guess…

    30. lrishWolfHound on

      Can’t fucking wait for the Gardai to only enforce this against your average 9-5 worker getting to and from work on the scooters, while the lifelong dole merchant scrote will never, ever be checked because it’s too much effort for them to give chase.

      Absolutely woeful decision from FFFG as always.

    31. horgantron on

      Isn’t it illegal for gards to stop or pursue the little angles on the scooters? How is this meant to be enforced?

      Oh of course it’s easy to enforce for regular people using the scooters in a decent manner though.

    32. Important-Field1995 on

      There’s no insurance company gonna cover ya on those things they’re wholesale dangerous.

      If the government is making insurance mandatory and a legal requirement they should have a vehicle to supply insurance instead of letting the private sector dictate the cost.

    33. omgitsShaneOG on

      This should mean the people who don’t own these see a reduction in their own tax somewhere. So then it balances out the budget to be the same as it was before.

      Aye, remove the TV license for this or something smh. Or don’t do this at all. 🙄

    34. Grand-Cup-A-Tea on

      So when they catch the people breaking the law (the ones who never respected it in the first place), what happens?

      Oh yeah, nothing 

    35. mrpcuddles on

      So you need to be over 18 to use one and have them taxed and insured (which for insurance would be a nightmare unless tied to some sort of training or experience, like a driving licence… ) whereas if your 16 and get a provisional licence you can drive a motorbike with the same requirements, and go a lot faster

    36. railer201 on

      It will be interesting to see what insurance premiums are charged for e-scooters ? Insurance companies never looked kindly on their fossil fuelled cousins from my own experience.

    37. nerdling007 on

      Escooters are a lovely distraction from larger issues. People don’t seem to realise how propagandised they’ve been to have these kneejerk reactions to them, to the point of advocating for violence against users by drivers. People need to get a massive grip and stop baying along like sheep on this pearl clutch issue and demand an actual solution to the problem that is crime.

    38. stuyboi888 on

      Ahh yes, making them even more illegal, that will work. 

    39. Biker_catdad2 on

      Legislation, without the backing and power to enforce it is only talk and ink on paper. The problem is the misuse and other antisocial behaviour they are being used for. Look at the scrambler ban, it’s uninforcable as the gardai risk being prosecuted themselves if they pursue them, and the north face brigade know it so flout the laws. As a result look at the rampant theft of motorcycles and no appetite to do anything about it. It’s the law abiding citizen is caught.

      Helmets great idea, but not all helmets are made equal.
      Hi Viz is a load of hot air, make this mandatory – mandatory PPE is more appropriate, a hi Viz won’t stop anyone sustaining any injury, never mind a serious one or worse.

      Yes ban all u18s from using them, great idea – unless they are 16 and they get behind the wheel of a 10ton tractor or drive a 125 or at 17 a car.

      For what it’s worth, currently the only legal thing a motorcyclist has to wear is a helmet. Shorts T-shirt and flip flops isn’t breaking any law, but the result of anything happening wearing them does bear thinking about so the majority of people wear appropriate gear at pay a pretty penny for it.

      This is all talk from the government and reactive without critical thinking or thought of how realistic the impact is.

    40. Laws for the sake of it are worthless and are just a case of trying to look like theyre doing something without actually doing anything.

      The whole problem with scroters is its an enforcement problem caused by letting the pendulum swing too far the wrong way so the agressors aka the little scrotes are able to hide behind laws that were intended to protect innocents and not them and that hamstring the guards from doing their jobs. Until that changes these pointless changes are just that.

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