Guys I think we need to hold a citizens assembly on drug use then a few justice committees on the same. Then if they dont go our way we should just say fuck it and continue the losing war on drugs /s
Edit: spelling
Lighter_Butane on
So decriminalise it then.
alt4hidingmathshame on
FT has a story today on how the average bag of cocaine has never been cheaper or purer
Proper-Grapefruit77 on
Crazy read, who is using cocaine for weight loss hahaha
Content-Weakness-550 on
There is a large overlap of people who gladly boycott Israel and Russia for legitimate reasons but see no problem in propping up drug gangs that do massive damage to local poor communities, unleash wartime levels of violence on communities in Latin America and do untold damage to the environment through the use of mercury in processing cocaine? The “ESG” argument against cocaine use is massive, but it is rarely made. It should be a source of shame, like drink driving.
FlukyS on
Obviously their measures aren’t working if it is that normalised, so the solution? Keep on doing the same things.
Like I know it is kind of a meme because the book is super old but it has some gems and that is in the Art of War it has loads of lessons about how to approach problems. The one that the Irish gov and Gardai need to learn is:
> To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting
Their entire battle since the war on drugs was started has always been in reducing supply. Reduction in supply doesn’t reduce the want of people who are seeking the drugs and reducing supply doesn’t mean people won’t be insentivised to deal drugs because that just drives the prices up. The solution is decriminalisation just like it was for alcohol when the prohibition movement failed. Increased enforcement requires more jails, court time and affects the lives of people who could have serious addiction issues that can be addressed compassionately.
Instead we just throw money down the toilet on enforcement and drug dealers still are selling. It is performative nonsense.
Fit-Lawyer8381 on
Can’t even have a hobby
Longjumping-Wash-610 on
So what does decriminalised mean ? Is it just people won’t be prosecuted for possession? Or people can buy drugs in a shop ?
Willing_Gap_3854 on
Professional classes, guards and ministers. Know 2 serving guards in recovery
ForbiddenToblerone on
The main tragedy of the normalisation of cocaine (that is too taboo to talk about) is me having to wait ages for two lads with the sneachta sniffles to get out of the pub’s bathroom stall when I am bursting at the seams with an impending Guinness shite.
We need to have a national conversation about this or we’ll get nowhere.
Surrealspanner on
Unrelated but I hate the phrase ‘professional classes’. You’re still a worker.
Positive_Survey_2916 on
The only way usage diminishes is if it becomes completely normalised. Then a counter-culture develops, and an ever-growing group says they’re the special ones that DONT do coke and are therefore morally superior to the masses.
I know this because I don’t do coke and I feel superior. I am literally the only one
Robin_Now on
Listen when the pints cost €7 …
wc08amg on
If only he’d had, checks notes, 7 years to do something about it?
vandalhandle on
Drew Harris admitting he was shit as head of the gardai and the cocaine issue got worse during his leadership.
Velocity_Rob on
Yeah well, wait until the amatuer classes get hold it.
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Guys I think we need to hold a citizens assembly on drug use then a few justice committees on the same. Then if they dont go our way we should just say fuck it and continue the losing war on drugs /s
Edit: spelling
So decriminalise it then.
FT has a story today on how the average bag of cocaine has never been cheaper or purer
Crazy read, who is using cocaine for weight loss hahaha
There is a large overlap of people who gladly boycott Israel and Russia for legitimate reasons but see no problem in propping up drug gangs that do massive damage to local poor communities, unleash wartime levels of violence on communities in Latin America and do untold damage to the environment through the use of mercury in processing cocaine? The “ESG” argument against cocaine use is massive, but it is rarely made. It should be a source of shame, like drink driving.
Obviously their measures aren’t working if it is that normalised, so the solution? Keep on doing the same things.
Like I know it is kind of a meme because the book is super old but it has some gems and that is in the Art of War it has loads of lessons about how to approach problems. The one that the Irish gov and Gardai need to learn is:
> To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting
Their entire battle since the war on drugs was started has always been in reducing supply. Reduction in supply doesn’t reduce the want of people who are seeking the drugs and reducing supply doesn’t mean people won’t be insentivised to deal drugs because that just drives the prices up. The solution is decriminalisation just like it was for alcohol when the prohibition movement failed. Increased enforcement requires more jails, court time and affects the lives of people who could have serious addiction issues that can be addressed compassionately.
Instead we just throw money down the toilet on enforcement and drug dealers still are selling. It is performative nonsense.
Can’t even have a hobby
So what does decriminalised mean ? Is it just people won’t be prosecuted for possession? Or people can buy drugs in a shop ?
Professional classes, guards and ministers. Know 2 serving guards in recovery
The main tragedy of the normalisation of cocaine (that is too taboo to talk about) is me having to wait ages for two lads with the sneachta sniffles to get out of the pub’s bathroom stall when I am bursting at the seams with an impending Guinness shite.
We need to have a national conversation about this or we’ll get nowhere.
Unrelated but I hate the phrase ‘professional classes’. You’re still a worker.
The only way usage diminishes is if it becomes completely normalised. Then a counter-culture develops, and an ever-growing group says they’re the special ones that DONT do coke and are therefore morally superior to the masses.
I know this because I don’t do coke and I feel superior. I am literally the only one
Listen when the pints cost €7 …
If only he’d had, checks notes, 7 years to do something about it?
Drew Harris admitting he was shit as head of the gardai and the cocaine issue got worse during his leadership.
Yeah well, wait until the amatuer classes get hold it.