Molti nell’opposizione criticano Nikol per le sue dichiarazioni sulle croci di pietra. Tuttavia, credo che sollevi un punto valido che merita una discussione critica. Quali sono le implicazioni del culto religioso, del simbolismo e della mitologia nella nostra società? Sono di qualche aiuto?





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    1. JeanJauresJr on

      As for my opinion, before the opposition starts accusing me of disrespecting khachkars, it’s crucial to recognize that this doesn’t mean we should disregard or overlook our cultural treasures, even those from the recent past. Historical monuments like these have intrinsic value. However, we must ask: What good would new khachkars do? What benefit would a new church or a large statue of Jesus (one of Dodi Gago’s ridiculous projects) bring to the Armenian cause today? In this modern age, technology, innovation, and scientific advancements are what propel a country forward. A lack of these elements will only hold us back. To survive and thrive as a nation, we must critically examine traditional narratives and avoid repeating past mistakes.

    2. GhostofCircleKnight on

      The predecessor to cross stones were dragon stones (Vishapakar). The Christianization of Armenia saw the former fall out of favor. Be it because they were destroyed by church authorities, invaders, or succumbed to the wear / tear of the ages. Cultural elements are always dying / being reconstructed.

      People stopped believing in the power of dragon rocks and in the soviet times, many stop believing in the power of stone crosses. Perceptions influence our subjective moods and reality, but in the longterm there is a march towards realism over ritualism, a rock cross being less supernatural than a dragon stone. The next successor ideally more realistic than a rock cross [there is no commandment in the bible that orders Christians to build such things anyway].

      A rock is matter and matter can be molded to become anything (within reason/physics). I wish he had worded it like that, but oh well. Maybe the next rock cross equivalent will be a bastion or something similar. I hope our people can get creative.

      If the next ‘religion’ of the world will amount to some sort of liberal humanist utilitarian welfarism, as to embody that tradition, I myself hope the rocks will instead be molded to be stone fountains for birds to drink and bathe in, to relieve them of their thirst, but that’s just me.

    3. MetsHayq2 on

      We often wonder why so many young Armenians leave Armenia. Maybe part of it is that they feel they have to uphold a tradition or a custom that benefits others, but not them. A khachqar is a wonderful piece of religious symbolism, but if investing in religious symbolism is more important to us than investing in the futures and prosperity of our youth who is benefiting from religious symbolism? 

    4. CalGuy456 on

      What’s the context to this, why did he say this, does anyone know the background?

    5. ReverendEdgelord on

      I have never seen nor heard of a khachkhar do any practical service to our society. They are symbolic. As symbols, we can worry about them when all our more pressing needs are met. Until then, as u/TeoSupreme said, neverhmind khachkars.

    6. I am not sure if this is the same video or another one, but he did such remarks on a similar subject yesterday, he talked about how our treatment of our children is causing them to leave the country, he did have a few points about our cultural taboo but it was completely unrelated to why young people leave.

    7. lezvaban on

      Pardon me–I don’t know what Mr. Pashinyan said about cross-stones. Was he (or are you?) explicitly or implicitly stating an opinion one way or another as to the value of these stones? Do you believe we lost something of value when various cross-stones and other markers were destroyed in Nakhichevan?

      [https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/CulturalRights/DestructionHeritage/States/Armenia-Appendix1.pdf](https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/CulturalRights/DestructionHeritage/States/Armenia-Appendix1.pdf)

    8. indomnus on

      The point he was making was who needs these symbols and culture and tradition when we can’t take care of and guarantee the thing that we definitely do have. His point is clear, but the way he goes about stating it is really stupid. Keep in mind he said this in a village in Syunik.

    9. mobidick_is_a_whale on

      Personally, I don’t give a damn about khachqars or churches, really. He, or anyone else can give those away like hot cookies. Frankly, if this nation is gonna be upholding its identity solely by christian paraphernalia — then it’s a very sad nation. It’s a dying religion, and if that’s the only thing we ever cling on — we are going to fade into obscurity along with it. That’s not an outcome I’d ever want.

    10. ShahVahan on

      We have 1000 year old khachkars churches and fortresses literally rotting and more beautiful than modern creation and we choose to spend our money on building. Invest that money in history and the future not for vanity projects to feel good.

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