Sono l’auto contrassegnata in giallo, l’auto che ho contrassegnato in rosso pensa chiaramente di avere la priorità perché stamattina era chiaramente arrabbiato perché ero dove voleva guidare. Suona il clacson e fa gesti orribili (ho imboccato la corsia più a sinistra andando verso ovest ). Sia il traffico in entrata da sud che quello da nord ottengono il via libera allo stesso tempo. Penso di avere la priorità. Si unisce dal mio lato destro. Potrei capire se volesse unire la corsia di destra ma tagliare a sinistra perché ci sono dei camion sulla destra, che quasi mi colpiscono e suonano il clacson come se dovessi dare la precedenza? Come se non avessi letteralmente nessun posto dove andare? Non bello! Opinioni?
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di Zonderling81
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You have the priority as he’s only joining the main road with priority that you’re already driving on in that exact spot. However, this is a very tricky situation where he’d need to watch across 10s of meters of the road to see if anyone joins the main road. The solution is patience, plus you joining the left lane and him the right. I think that his frustration must have come from the surprise of you appearing, or simply because he was a …
I feel like you have to get off the intersection asap, so that makes you the priority.
Red has priority (right handed turn over left handed turn). Ideally you can both use 1 of both lanes but if red cars want to use priority like in your example they can.
Yellow is already on the main road after turning left. While red wants to turn to the right, he has to give way.
Yelliw has priority because red come from a stop line.
I believe this is the intersection of A12 and N16 in Willebroek. You’re both turning on the N16 towards Sint-Niklaas. I often come from the red side and have seen some close calls. The yellow side has priority because it has finished its turn before passing the red cars, and the road they turned on is a priority road. Also, the red cars don’t get a green light, but a flashing orange to indicate that they are not free to turn without looking.
When there’s no other indication, you have to give priority to the car coming from the right. So red would have priority afaik.
That being said, I feel like you can only safely resolve this situation by using traffic lights. Red and yellow should not have a green light at the same time.
in the abence of signs, the priority of vehicules coming from the right prevail. So red has right of way
Yellow has priority.
Red has a stop followed by and uninterrupted bicycle path.
https://www.permisdeconduire-online.be/theorie/theorie-permis-b/la-priorite-de-droite-et-exceptions
So… yellow and red both have a green light at the same time then?
Yellow has priority
Ah yes, classic Belgian infrastructure. Only in this country you can find retarded intersections like this. I’m sorry for being harsh, but whoever designed and approved this was absolutely incompetent.
This is next to Puurs by the way, I know the intersection very well. Almost had my own car wrecked on several occasions here because of the confusion this place causes.
Edit: forgot to answer the question, but the yellow car has priority here. The fact that this question has to be asked should tell you everything about how atrocious the design of Belgian highways are.
yellow has priority as there is a full white line (equivalent to a stop sign) in front of red
Anyone who mentions “without any signs”, there’s a Stop line in front of Red. That alone should indicate yellow has priority, let alone the bicycle path, or the fact that his road is obviously merging.
There are 2 lanes u go on the left one and he goes on the right one ? What’s the problem
where is this?
Well you might be a dick. Iirc you have to turn into the path on the rightmost lane, which you didn’t. Barring any signs giving priority, right of way is to those coming from the right.
Yellow is on the main road before red, that would’ve been my thinking in this case. Honestly they should just put sharksteeth on red.
Oh Belgium.
Only 1 law here , get there first 😅😂
N16 in Puurs? Yellow has priority!
Need more info… where is this intersection ?
Signalisation is definitely lacking apparently. Outside of agglomerations right of way should be clearly visible. Right priority without markings only applies in agglomeration, outside it should always be marked.
Is this at the Carpool Parking in Puurs?
If I’m not mistaken, the cars coming from the red-side do not have green at the same time, they have a flashing orange when you have green so he has to be very careful entering the crossroad.
Looking from Google street view from Red car prespective, he have the Sign Board: Give way and stop if necessary (inverted triangle) So he needs to give way to the Yellow car.
I pass this crossroad everyday to work. Yellow has priority. Red also does not have a green light, only a flashing yellow one. So they can only enter when it is safe.
https://preview.redd.it/8kgpxvnmmhoc1.png?width=2174&format=png&auto=webp&s=5257bbf432fdd03703a3350e7161409143f284cc
Viewpoint from the red car. Why is this even a question? Why are people saying red has the right of way?
Euh, yellow has priority cause red is changing from the right lane to the left lane right?
Looking at the street view with the link OP posted somewhere, red has a B1 priority sign. So yellow has priority.
The way this is designed, it appears red has priority. They should have added sharkteeth where the two roads merge to make it clear that red needs to give way. The earlier give way sign is a bit misleading as one could assume it only applies to the bicycle path.
The fact that a third to half the people are saying red has prio, and that many people are arguing over this, shows how the roads are not designed properly and that this whole yield to the right side bs is bs. Thats whats causing the confusing anyways. I dont want to have to calculate or always keep in mind to yield to the right.
At intersections without lights, all way stop signs need to be implemented. But that will never happen cuz thats a lot of money to spend + ppl dont wanna change/abolish this rule.
Red has stopstreep simple…
Looking on google maps, priority road only start after that intersection. So red has priority. Although you really shouldn’t be having green at the same time. Or yellow should be required to go to the left lane and red to the right.
Sorry OP you’re right but unfortunately you’ll never feel the satisfaction of knowing the other driver was a) wrong b) an asshole
Regardless of who has green or not, don’t you just need to stay in your lane until after completing a manoeuvre?
As in, red stays on the right and green on the left until after the crossing. If both do that they can never hit each other.
Yellow
Yellow, but these are utterly senseless discussions imho and an indication that there is something fundamentally wrong with the mindset of most drivers. The “wegcode” clearly states that ‘every conductor must approach any intersection with caution in order not to endanger others’. Regardless of the priority rules. Who even knew that this paragraph is in there? No, instead we frustrate ourselves about the behavior of others and start discussions whether who´s in his right or not. “Hoffelijkheid” en anticipating the mistakes of other drivers? Nada, and for what? 10 seconds of time saved?
Yellow
apparently this is NOT the Belgian law
[https://www.drivesmartbc.ca/sites/default/files/images/TurningPaths.jpg](https://www.drivesmartbc.ca/sites/default/files/images/TurningPaths.jpg)
My first reaction was “the one with the biggest car”.
After having had a closer look, me, in yellow, would have stopped to let the other one go. It’s not worth messing up my day. If I had been in red, same same.
I don’t care who is right or wrong. Life’s too short.
Ah N16! Same with turning to the right at those lights. Nobody seems to know.
Edit: typo